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Sat Apr 24 13:07:27 1999
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 99 10:00:16 -0700
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Perl-Users Digest Sat, 24 Apr 1999 Volume: 8 Number: 5473
Today's topics:
Beginners Book <A@nospam.ukgateway.net>
Re: Beginners Book <ebohlman@netcom.com>
Re: Cant run perl scripts on Apache server on NT <perlguy@technologist.com>
Re: Error 2 during "make install" <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Re: FAQ 7.2: What are all these $@%&* punctuation signs (Larry Rosler)
File Upload Status Message <mark@appal.com>
Re: GIFgraph problems <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Help: flock function (again). networks@skynet.co.uk
Re: Help: Regex Parser Testing? (M.J.T. Guy)
Re: How to read the modification date of a file? <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Re: Module Questions <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Re: Newbie regex query <tbryan@arlut.utexas.edu>
Re: Newbie regex query (Larry Rosler)
Re: Newbie regex query <jasontw@my-dejanews.com>
Re: Perl 'split' function in C?? (M.J.T. Guy)
Re: Perl 'split' function in C?? <jhi@alpha.hut.fi>
Perl5_04 for BSDI 3.1 kamez@my-dejanews.com
Re: See how you compare to our Top Ten list of perl pro (Mark-Jason Dominus)
Re: SSI calls suporte@seunome.com
Re: SSI calls <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Re: SSI calls <thespaceport@my-dejanews.com>
TCP/IP beginner <support@inkfarm.com>
Re: The docs as talking books (was Re: newbie with a "h (Jeffrey Drumm)
Special: Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 12 Dec 98 (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:21:41 +0100
From: Albert Royle <A@nospam.ukgateway.net>
Subject: Beginners Book
Message-Id: <3721B755.DCF54257@nospam.ukgateway.net>
Could somebody please recommend a good "teach yourself Perl" book for a
beginner?
Ta.
--
_________________________________________________________________________
" For years we bugged and burgled our way across London at the State's
behest, while pompous bowler-hatted civil servants pretended to look the
other way"
Peter Wright
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:04:00 GMT
From: Eric Bohlman <ebohlman@netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Beginners Book
Message-Id: <ebohlmanFAp2yp.5A4@netcom.com>
Albert Royle <A@nospam.ukgateway.net> wrote:
: Could somebody please recommend a good "teach yourself Perl" book for a
: beginner?
Beginner to Perl, or beginner to programming in general? If the former,
try Randal Schwartz's _Learning Perl_.
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 08:35:02 -0500
From: Brent Michalski <perlguy@technologist.com>
Subject: Re: Cant run perl scripts on Apache server on NT
Message-Id: <3721C886.BC0A9820@technologist.com>
agniora@usa.net wrote:
>
> when i try to point to a perl script on my apache server on NT platform, it
> just displays the file as a text file instead of executing it. does anyone
> know how i might be able to get my server to run perl scripts? thanks
>
> agniora
>
> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
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Yes, you need to configure Apache to handle the scripts!
Go to:
http://www.activestate.com/activeperl/docs/perl-win32/perlwin32faq6.html
and you will find all of the information you need.
Brent
--
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+----------------------------------------+
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Date: 24 Apr 1999 12:33:25 -0000
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: Error 2 during "make install"
Message-Id: <7fsdml$1va$1@gellyfish.btinternet.com>
On 22 Apr 1999 18:50:47 GMT Mike Flaherty wrote:
>
> I tried installing perl 5.005_03 on Solaris 2.6.
>
<snip>
> /bin/sh: ar: not found
> make[1]: *** [../../lib/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/scratch/perl5.005_03/ext/DynaLoader'
> make: *** [lib/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a] Error 2
Doris reckons you are using gcc and have not installed the binutils
package as well.
/J\
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 07:38:28 -0700
From: lr@hpl.hp.com (Larry Rosler)
Subject: Re: FAQ 7.2: What are all these $@%&* punctuation signs, and how do I know when to use them?
Message-Id: <MPG.118b773bc3006fdc989933@nntp.hpl.hp.com>
[Posted and a courtesy copy sent.]
In article <3721873b@cs.colorado.edu> on 24 Apr 1999 02:56:27 -0700, Tom
Christiansen <perlfaq-suggestions@perl.com> says...
...
> & for subroutines (aka functions, procedures, methods)
...
> While there are a few places where you don't actually need these
> type specifiers, you should always use them.
&yeccch("Is 'always' what the FAQ should say?\n");
&blecch("And as it says 'functions', what about this:\n");
&print("Have a nice day!\n");
--
(Just Another Larry) Rosler
Hewlett-Packard Company
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Larry_Rosler/
lr@hpl.hp.com
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 07:38:26 -0500
From: Mark Bannister <mark@appal.com>
Subject: File Upload Status Message
Message-Id: <3721BB42.F170C74B@appal.com>
NEWBIE CODE MANGLER TYPE QUESTION
I am doing a file upload page and would like to display the status of
the upload. Nothing fancy, just some indication that something is still
going on.
I copied "Jeff's Script" and added what the output I would like to be
(see bottom of page). Now the script does this $|=1; at the beginning,
which I assume has something to do with buffering.
The code below will not print until the upload is complete. I've
searched dejanews, I thought I saw a discussion a few weeks back about
print "....." while processing but I can't find it.
Any help would be appreciated.
Mark
undef $BytesRead;
undef $Buffer;
print "<table Border=1 width='75%'><colgroup width='50\%'
align=left><colgroup width='35\%' align=left><colgroup align=center>\n";
print "<thead><tr><td>File
Name</td><td>Uploading</td><td>Complete</td></tr></thead>\n";
print "<tr><td>$Filename</td><td>";
while ($Bytes = read($File_Handle,$Buffer,1024)) {
$BytesRead += $Bytes;
print ".";
print OUTFILE $Buffer;
}
print "</td>\n";
push(@Files_Written, "$SAVE_DIRECTORY\/$Filename");
$TOTAL_BYTES += $BytesRead;
$Confirmation{$File_Handle} = $BytesRead;
close($File_Handle);
close(OUTFILE);
print "<td>YES</td>\n";
#chmod (0662, "$SAVE_DIRECTORY\/$Filename");
chmod (0777, "$SAVE_DIRECTORY\/$Filename");
print "</tr>";
}
$FILES_UPLOADED = scalar(keys(%Confirmation));
if ($TOTAL_BYTES > $MAXIMUM_UPLOAD && $MAXIMUM_UPLOAD > 0) {
foreach $File (@Files_Written) {
unlink $File;
}
&error3;
exit;
}
print "</table>\n";
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Date: 24 Apr 1999 13:47:14 -0000
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: GIFgraph problems
Message-Id: <7fsi12$2cg$1@gellyfish.btinternet.com>
On Sat, 24 Apr 1999 15:02:03 +0800 Shashank Tripathi wrote:
> Hi I am using the sample program that comes with GIFgraph and it gives me
> the following error:
>
> ---------------
> Software error:
> Can't locate object method "new" via package "GIFgraph::bars" at
> C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\cgiii\gifgraph1.pl line 14.
> ---------------
>
Unfortunately Doris just stepped out - normal psychic debugging services
will resume as soon as possible ...
/J\
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 12:40:59 GMT
From: networks@skynet.co.uk
Subject: Help: flock function (again).
Message-Id: <3721ba1b.9862759@news.skynet.co.uk>
Hi again,
Here's part my script:
open (DATAFILE, "products.txt");
flock (DATAFILE, $lock_file);
while (defined($line = <DATAFILE>))
{
($prodnum,$prodname,$price1,$price2) = split(/\t/,$line);
chomp ($price2);
print "<tr>\n";
print "<td>",$prodname,"</font></td>\n";
print "<td align=\"right\">#",$price1,"</td>\n";
print "<td><INPUT TYPE=\"radio\" NAME=\"",$prodnum,"\"
value=\"",$price1,"\"></td>\n";
print "<td align=\"right\">#",$price2,"</td>\n";
print "<td><INPUT TYPE=\"radio\" NAME=\"",$prodnum,"\"
value=\"",$price2,"\"></td>\n";
print "</tr>\n";
}
flock (DATAFILE, $unlock_file);
close (DATAFILE);
---------------------
When I run the script with the flock functions in place it prevents
the data from the file being displayed? if I remove the flock function
every thing works fine!
Any ideas?
( I know the html code is incomplete, its just simpler to show the
script like this :))
Regards & thanks in advance.
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Date: 24 Apr 1999 14:53:12 GMT
From: mjtg@cus.cam.ac.uk (M.J.T. Guy)
Subject: Re: Help: Regex Parser Testing?
Message-Id: <7fslso$16r$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>
Scott Waddell <scott@waddells.net> wrote:
>I'm looking for a way to automate testing whether or not a particular
>regular expression parser is working properly.
>
>Can anyone point me to any tools or input/output sequences for testing
>third party regex engines?
The obvious resource is the regression tests that come with Perl.
See t/op/regexp.t and t/op/regexp_noamp.t in the Perl source
tree.
Also I believe that Philip Hazel has an extensive set of tests he uses
to exercise his pcre package. Some of them even broke Perl5. See
ftp://ftp.cus.cam.ac.uk/pub/software/programs/pcre/
Mike Guy
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Date: 24 Apr 1999 12:35:04 -0000
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: How to read the modification date of a file?
Message-Id: <7fsdpo$1vd$1@gellyfish.btinternet.com>
On 22 Apr 1999 22:31:26 GMT Abigail wrote:
> howitgolook (howitgolook@my-dejanews.com) wrote on MMLX September
> MCMXCIII in <URL:news:7fnman$qgl$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>:
> -- How can I determine the modification date of a file on a remote server?
>
>
> You NFS mount the disk and use the stat() command.
>
statd ate my hamster
/J\
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Date: 24 Apr 1999 12:43:51 -0000
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: Module Questions
Message-Id: <7fsea7$1vh$1@gellyfish.btinternet.com>
On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 18:00:25 -0500 Robert Smith wrote:
> I would like to implimnet the Apache-SSI-2.06.tar.gz fround at
> ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/plan/perl/CPAN/authors/id/KWILLIAMS/ but my
> question is how do I do it?? Isthere some sort of install for it??
> Where do I install it to and then how do I get PERL to use it??
>
You unpack the file and read the instructions in the README file therein.
Apache::SSI is an implementation of SSI to work with mod_perl, therefore
you will need to have already made and installed Apache with mod_perl.
/J\
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 09:16:04 -0400
From: "Thomas A. Bryan" <tbryan@arlut.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: Newbie regex query
Message-Id: <3721C414.86B84621@arlut.utexas.edu>
Andy Elvey wrote:
123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012
> I've been having a go with regexes - in particular, using them to get
> a simple derivative (calculus) script going. I'm trying to get the
> code to take a very simple function like 7x3 (7 times "x" cubed) and
> return the derivative (21x2).
I would have written this as 7x^3 and 21x^2.
> The code so far is as follows -
>
> !#/usr/bin/perl
> print "Enter a function : " ;
> while(<STDIN>) {
> if (/([0-9]*)([a-zA-Z]+)([0-9]*)/)
> {
> print "Derivative is ($1*$3)$2($3)-1 \n" ;
> }
> else
> {
> print "Sorry ... cant do derivative \n" ;
> }
> }
Your problem isn't with the regular expression. It's getting the
pieces of the function correctly. The problem is that you're
expecting a little too much telepathy from Perl. When you type
this
> print "Derivative is ($1*$3)$2($3)-1 \n" ;
Perl will do "variable interpolation," inserting values for $1,$ 2,
and $3, but it won't then do the computation. If you think about it,
you'll see that this behavior is the Right Thing (TM). Otherwise,
it would be rather difficult to print a mathematical expression. :)
Do the computation first. Then print it.
You could, for example, write a subroutine to handle each summand of
a polynomial
sub deriv{
my($coef, $var, $expnt) = @_;
my($result);
$result = sprintf "%0.2f%s%0.2f", $coef*$expnt, $var, $epnt-1;
return $result;
}
$derivative = &deriv($1,$2,$3);
print "The derivative is $deriv\n";
> ( By the way - I know of the calculus modules on CPAN - I'm just doing
> this to get the feel of regexes ....)
You're doing fine with the regex. Of course, *I* think you should be
matching 7x^3 instead of 7x3, and then you'll need to try
7x^3 + x^2 - 2x + 1
Since you're doing it for fun, I won't even make any suggestions, but
having a subroutine for the summands will be helpful. :)
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 07:28:12 -0700
From: lr@hpl.hp.com (Larry Rosler)
Subject: Re: Newbie regex query
Message-Id: <MPG.118b74c92f44dbff989932@nntp.hpl.hp.com>
[Posted and a courtesy copy sent.]
In article <372178D8.7438@ibm.net> on Sat, 24 Apr 1999 19:55:04 +1200,
Andy Elvey <andyelv@ibm.net> says...
> I've been having a go with regexes - in particular, using them to get a
> simple derivative (calculus) script going. I'm trying to get the code
> to take a very
> simple function like 7x3 (7 times "x" cubed) and return the derivative
> (21x2).
> The code so far is as follows -
>
> !#/usr/bin/perl
Start out right -- add the ' -w' flag on this line, and add
use strict;
as the next line.
> print "Enter a function : " ;
> while(<STDIN>) {
> if (/([0-9]*)([a-zA-Z]+)([0-9]*)/)
A few improvements: If you're going to do arithmetic on those digit
strings, you'd better make sure there is at least one digit in each.
And you might give them some optional breathing room. '\d' is a
shorthand for '[0-9]'.
if (/(\d+)\s*([a-zA-Z]+)\s*(\d+)/)
> {
> print "Derivative is ($1*$3)$2($3)-1 \n" ;
As you have discovered, arithmetic isn't done within quoted strings
(though there *are* ways, best left for much later). So use print()'s
capability to handle a list of arguments:
print 'Derivative is ', $1 * $3, $2, $3 - 1, "\n";
I've given the operators some air, and taken out the trailing space
before the newline. Most people here (with one exception I know of,
Uri) don't put a space before the semicolon.
That doesn't work very well if the power is 1, but...
A good book like 'Learning Perl' might help you through the rough spots
where the Perl docs aren't clear enough.
--
(Just Another Larry) Rosler
Hewlett-Packard Company
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Larry_Rosler/
lr@hpl.hp.com
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:46:17 GMT
From: Jason Williams <jasontw@my-dejanews.com>
Subject: Re: Newbie regex query
Message-Id: <7fslfp$4pm$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
The problem is in your output statement. You're looking to have parts of
($1*$3)$2($3)-1 evaluated, which it isn't inside the print statement. You
could use printf() to get the correct output. Something like:
printf("Derivative is %d%s%d\n", ($1 * $3), $2, ($3-1));
Jason
In article <372178D8.7438@ibm.net>,
andyelv@ibm.net wrote:
> I've been having a go with regexes - in particular, using them to get a
> simple derivative (calculus) script going. I'm trying to get the code
> to take a very
> simple function like 7x3 (7 times "x" cubed) and return the derivative
> (21x2).
> The code so far is as follows -
>
> !#/usr/bin/perl
> print "Enter a function : " ;
> while(<STDIN>) {
> if (/([0-9]*)([a-zA-Z]+)([0-9]*)/)
> {
> print "Derivative is ($1*$3)$2($3)-1 \n" ;
> }
> else
> {
> print "Sorry ... cant do derivative \n" ;
> }
> }
>
> The answer that this returns to 7x3 is (7*3)x(3)-1 .
> I've tried using the eval function , but with no luck so far.
> Anyone have any ideas .... ? :-)
> ( By the way - I know of the calculus modules on CPAN - I'm just doing
> this to get
> the feel of regexes ....)
> Thanks in advance for any help or tips.
>
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Date: 24 Apr 1999 14:26:32 GMT
From: mjtg@cus.cam.ac.uk (M.J.T. Guy)
Subject: Re: Perl 'split' function in C??
Message-Id: <7fskao$su3$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>
Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com> wrote:
>
>Except of course that strtok doesnt do regex - like I say if you want split
>like Perl does then you go look at the Perl source.
But the Perl source for regex is a bit daunting. You might well
find Philip Hazel's pcre - Perl-compatible regular expressions
more palatable:
ftp://ftp.cus.cam.ac.uk/pub/software/programs/pcre/
Mike Guy
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Date: 24 Apr 1999 18:23:57 +0300
From: Jarkko Hietaniemi <jhi@alpha.hut.fi>
Subject: Re: Perl 'split' function in C??
Message-Id: <oeeyaji59f6.fsf@alpha.hut.fi>
mjtg@cus.cam.ac.uk (M.J.T. Guy) writes:
> Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com> wrote:
> >
> >Except of course that strtok doesnt do regex - like I say if you want split
> >like Perl does then you go look at the Perl source.
>
> But the Perl source for regex is a bit daunting. You might well
Mike, I know you Brits have mastered the art of understatement but
calling the Perl regex source 'a bit' dauntings verges on the naughty.
--
$jhi++; # http://www.iki.fi/jhi/
# There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'.
# It is 'dead'. -- Jack Cohen
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:05:26 GMT
From: kamez@my-dejanews.com
Subject: Perl5_04 for BSDI 3.1
Message-Id: <7fsfil$32$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
i got a hard time to compile Perl5 release 04 , with compiling error ,
it says "perl.o undefined segment in text ......" , this is for a bench of
object codes....think it's a library matter,
would anyone has a clue about how to fix that ?
Thanks a lot ,
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 15:21:51 GMT
From: mjd@op.net (Mark-Jason Dominus)
Subject: Re: See how you compare to our Top Ten list of perl programmers.
Message-Id: <7fsnhh$s4e$1@monet.op.net>
In article <19990423234145.106$5E@newsreader.com>,
>To qualify as a Certified perl Programmer, you must pass the examination
>with a score of 2.75 or higher.
I took a look, and I notice that although they claim to impose a
180-second time limit on each question, the limit is imposed via
javascript.
So if you want to get a really good score to this idiotic
`ceritifcation', be sure to take it with javascript turned off in your
browser, and then you can take as much time as you want on each
question.
More to the point, it demonstrates pretty clearly the the value of any
such `certification' is zero.
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 12:06:47 GMT
From: suporte@seunome.com
Subject: Re: SSI calls
Message-Id: <3721b2f2.420667114@news.mandic.com.br>
On Sat, 24 Apr 1999 02:49:51 GMT, Brad Beiter
<thespaceport@my-dejanews.com> wrote:
>How can I call an html document from another server to be inserted into my
>html doc?
Due to the security of your server,
your server adm will not let U do this
with SSI, but it's possible if U use a
parser perl/cgi module,
check at perl.com CPAM.
Regards
Suporte
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>
>--
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>
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Date: 24 Apr 1999 13:44:27 -0000
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: SSI calls
Message-Id: <7fshrr$2cc$1@gellyfish.btinternet.com>
On Sat, 24 Apr 1999 02:49:51 GMT Brad Beiter wrote:
> How can I call an html document from another server to be inserted into my
> html doc?
>
Come on amaze us tell us what you think this has to with Perl
/J\
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:15:22 GMT
From: Brad Beiter <thespaceport@my-dejanews.com>
Subject: Re: SSI calls
Message-Id: <7fsqmp$92j$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Sorry comrade J -- it is had to understand what you are saying....formulate
sentences much???!!
--Brad Beiter
Visit the SPACEPORT!
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 11:50:39 -0400
From: "michael" <support@inkfarm.com>
Subject: TCP/IP beginner
Message-Id: <7fsple$ctn$1@nntp1.atl.mindspring.net>
I hope I am asking this correctly:
How can I make a perl program "listen" and "write" to TCP/IP?
-Michael Herder
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 12:08:06 GMT
From: jdrumm@blazenetme.net (Jeffrey Drumm)
Subject: Re: The docs as talking books (was Re: newbie with a "howto" question)
Message-Id: <3721b311.74584996@news.mmc.org>
[posted to comp.lang.perl.misc and mailed]
On 24 Apr 1999 09:44:42 -0000, Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
wrote:
(snip)
>To this end I have started work on the module Pod::Speech which will render
>the otherwise excellent but until now and in this respect severely limited
>Perl documenatation as the spoken word. Initially the interface will be
>limited in comparison to say perldoc but Doris is going to do some work
>on integrating the functionality of PSI::ESP and it is hoped that the
>version to be included in the Perl 7 distribution will allow even the most
>profoundly idle to find the answers they need - in concert with development
>in the area of code generation we could find ourselves with a language
>where no-one will be required to know how to program or type a line of code.
>
>One area where some feedback would be useful is as to who's voice should be
>used - Mrs Gellyfish is dead set on that of Sir Anthony Hopkins but I think
>that might be national bias on her part. Suggestions ?
Pee-Wee Herman, or Barney the Purple Dinosaur. Those that need to actually
use such a module deserve nothing worse. :-)
--
- Jeff
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Date: 12 Dec 98 21:33:47 GMT (Last modified)
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