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Perl-Users Digest, Issue: 5417 Volume: 8

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Perl-Users Digest)
Mon Apr 19 09:12:34 1999

Date: Mon, 19 Apr 99 06:00:20 -0700
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To: Perl-Users@ruby.OCE.ORST.EDU (Perl-Users Digest)

Perl-Users Digest           Mon, 19 Apr 1999     Volume: 8 Number: 5417

Today's topics:
        (Me Dummy) Have .pl forum script and want to add an ext <austin.m@virgin.net>
    Re: Another beginner question <kgenus@tidalwave.net>
    Re: Any good perl2exe tools <jamesht@idt.net>
    Re: Books <kgenus@tidalwave.net>
    Re: Can i run cgi in Win95 of my PC ?? <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
    Re: CGI / IIS problem <kgenus@tidalwave.net>
        re: CGI programmer wanted <kai@sparc.spb.su>
    Re: Changing Names In Database <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
    Re: Check for NT Groups on 95 Client? <kgenus@tidalwave.net>
        Good Perl Books <kgenus@tidalwave.net>
    Re: invoking by "fire and forget" <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
        lakes.PM, Cumbria, UK <tony@emailcyberscape.net>
        LDAP and PERL michielpeene@my-dejanews.com
    Re: LDAP and PERL <sspringett@cwe2.com>
        Making a hash of 2-D and 3-D Associative Arrays <cingram@pjocs.demon.co.uk>
    Re: Multiple submits on a CGI form <tony@emailcyberscape.net>
    Re: Multiple submits on a CGI form <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
    Re: Passing variables between scripts? How? (Thomas Eichmann)
    Re: Starting an application from a CGI script on NT <c4jgurney@my-dejanews.com>
        VB and Perl <bhilton@kc.net>
    Re: VB and Perl <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
    Re: VB and Perl <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
        Viewing a spreadsheet? vivekvp@yahoo.com
    Re: Viewing a spreadsheet? <wyzelli@yahoo.com>
    Re: Viewing a spreadsheet? <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
        Win32::FileSecurity <abeer@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
        Special: Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 12 Dec 98 (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:08:45 +0100
From: "Mark Austin" <austin.m@virgin.net>
Subject: (Me Dummy) Have .pl forum script and want to add an extra (blank) line inbetween..
Message-Id: <7ff6bf$3dh$1@nclient3-gui.server.virgin.net>

the various threads / groups of messages to make it more readable.  Any
ideas as to the neccessary code I need to insert and where?

I'm using wwwboard.pl a freeware package which I downloaded from;
http://www.worldwidemart.com if you are aware of it.

Dummy (aka Mark)




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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:00:46 -0500
From: Kevin Genus <kgenus@tidalwave.net>
Subject: Re: Another beginner question
Message-Id: <371B28FE.104E12A6@tidalwave.net>

ibrew wrote:

> I get an error on the following chunck of code taken directly from the
> "Learning Perl" book, pages 8-9
>
> !#c:/perl/bin/perl
> @words = qw(camel llama alpaca);
>
> I get a compile error on the second statement;
> "Can't modify not in scalar assignment on line two..."
>
> i would be thankful for any help.

#! no !# ...

Also, if you are using windows, you do not need that line ... you should
set up associations and file types using FTYPE and ASSOC commands from
the command prompt.

-g



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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:16:07 -0400
From: James Tolley <jamesht@idt.net>
To: kjell.lonnqvist@nospam.evli.fi
Subject: Re: Any good perl2exe tools
Message-Id: <371B1E87.7BE4D9CF@idt.net>

www.activestate.com - you'll find a perl2exe here as well. It doesn't work
that well with 'require' and 'use' (and there are some other restrictions
as well), but it'll work on simpler scripts.

kjell.lonnqvist@nospam.evli.fi wrote:

>  I've been looking for tools to convert perl-scripts to .exe files
> that works under Windows NT.  So far I have found one tool perl2exe by
> demobuilder are there any other tools out there?





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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:32:34 -0500
From: Kevin Genus <kgenus@tidalwave.net>
To: puyrebel@prodigy.net
Subject: Re: Books
Message-Id: <371B3072.51A167E8@tidalwave.net>

Ken Robbins wrote:

> Hello.
>
> Does anyone know of any good books that just show the different Perl
> functions and how they are used? Really, any recommened books at any
> different level would be appreciated.
>
> --
> Ken Robbins
> puyrebel <AT> prodigy <DOT> net
>
> "If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked
> something."
> -- Murphy's Eighth Law

Oreilly Perl Resource Kit - $130  has ALL the functions ... there are
two versions: win32/Unix.  Both are pretty much the same.



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Date: 19 Apr 1999 11:59:55 +0100
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: Can i run cgi in Win95 of my PC ??
Message-Id: <371b0cab@newsread3.dircon.co.uk>

Arzhan I. Kinzhalin <kai@sparc.spb.su> wrote:
> 
> I want just note that installing http server is not a reqiurement: perl (5.005 I
> guess) does have offline-mode which is helpful to test CGI scripts written in
> perl without httpd. But you'll get tired of typing parameter values each time
> you run a script. :)
> 

Just to clarify Perl itself does not have an off-line mode - it is the module
CGI.pm that has such a mode.      

/J\
-- 
Jonathan Stowe <jns@gellyfish.com>



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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:21:06 -0500
From: Kevin Genus <kgenus@tidalwave.net>
To: parpaille@chez.com
Subject: Re: CGI / IIS problem
Message-Id: <371B2DC2.18D8A42A@tidalwave.net>

bernard menez wrote:

> hi all, I'm working on a website prototype. I have a client (Win95) and
> a server using WinNT and IIS.
> I wrote a few CGI scripts in Perl, but can't get them to work properly :
> the POST method returns a 501 http
> error (not implemented), whereas the GET method returns the .PL file's
> source code.
> Seems like IIS does not understand how PL files are to be used.
> The HTML and Perl code is not to blame, since I know everything was
> working fine on a similar platform
> (WinNT/IIS server) that I did not configure.
> Does anybody have an idea ? Please help, I'm definitely stuck.

You probably already found the answer, but if you didn't ... which version
of IIS are you using?  You need to set up IIS so that the CGI directories
have read/execute permission first.  Next, you have to set up the registry
(IIS 2.0) so that .pl extensions are perl scripts....   do a serch for
W3SVC, the web service, then look at the script parameters.  There should
already be one or two.  Add another DWORD ".pl" with the following
parameters:  "c:\perl\bin\perl.exe %s %s"  This is assuming perl is on
drive C:.  If you are using IIS 4.0, you can use the GUI to set up
extension associations for CGI scripts, so you are doing essentially the
same thing, different place, though.

Hope this helps get you pointed in the correct direction.

-g



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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:21:20 +0400
From: "Arzhan I. Kinzhalin" <kai@sparc.spb.su>
Subject: re: CGI programmer wanted
Message-Id: <Pine.GSO.4.02.9904191617270.15309-100000@minerva.sparc.spb.su>

On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Diablo Killuminati wrote:

->I opperate a couple of new adult sites and I am in need of a good CGI
->programmer.  

Are there some free xxx pics for this position? :))))

I guess this is invalid post. May be typo or something?

xcore



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Date: 19 Apr 1999 11:48:34 +0100
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: Changing Names In Database
Message-Id: <371b0a02@newsread3.dircon.co.uk>

JJ <webdude@mcminn.net> wrote:
> I have a script that grabs info from a database. What I want to do is rename
> the first field with a defined name depending on what the first field reads.
> Example: the database has ^DJI in the first field of the first line in the
> database and I want it to convert ^DJI to Dr. Jerry Isabell then the first
> field of the next line in the database might read ^DRW and I want to convert
> it to Dr. Robert Williams. I hope this is enough info :}
> 
> 

Doris is curious as to what form this database might take - after all the
answer to the question does depend rather on whether this is some flat text
file or a heavyweight RDBMS accessed though DBI wouldnt  you say ?

Generally speaking what you want is to create a separate lookup table
with the code conversions.

/J\
-- 
Jonathan Stowe <jns@gellyfish.com>



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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:06:41 -0500
From: Kevin Genus <kgenus@tidalwave.net>
To: Jim Holmes <jholmes@nospam.psrw.com>
Subject: Re: Check for NT Groups on 95 Client?
Message-Id: <371B2A61.D9CB010A@tidalwave.net>

Jim Holmes wrote:

> Can someone tell me how to check for NT group membership when a user logs on
> to a NT domain via a Win 95/98 client?
>
> Win32::NetAdmin::GroupIsMember works only under NT, at least according to
> the error message I'm getting when trying to use it...
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Jim Holmes
>
> jholmes@nospam.psrw.com

Jim, usually this is done with a KIX script:

IF InGroup("groupname")
    shell ("perlscript.pl")
END IF

Check the WIN32::NetAdmin Module as well.  There is a function there called
"IsMember" where you supply the servername and groupname.  I believe there are
two functions, for both global and local groups.  I usually always get the PDC
at the beginning of all my scripts for work and plug that into everything.  The
PDCs change, so this is not a static assignment, which would be nice.  If you
lock down your scripts and force a machine name, you can always use sed or
another perl script to go in and modify all of the PDC arguments as well.

Hope this helps.

-g



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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:15:26 -0500
From: Kevin Genus <kgenus@tidalwave.net>
Subject: Good Perl Books
Message-Id: <371B2C6E.5C3CFEB9@tidalwave.net>

Title:        Perl 5 Complete
Authors:    Edward S. Peschko & Michele DeWolfe
Publisher:    McGraw Hill
ISBN:        0-07-913698-2
Cost:    55 US / 84 Can

I've got the Camel Books, the Panter, and the Perl Resource Kit.   Perl 5
Complete, is the best resource I have stumbled upon.  I won't tell you how I
'stumbled' upon it, but it's WELL worth it if you are a PERL programmer, and
probably the last resource you will need.  Here's some of the highlights from
the back of the book:

Master the new Perl compiler
Develop modules for Windows NT:  Process, Mutex, Registry, and OLE ODBC
Develop modules for Unix:  ProcessMgr, SafeSig, and ReadKey
Use Perl to run databases and CGI applications more smoothly
Inteface Perl 5 to Java, Visual Basic, and C/C++
Explore dozens of prewritten programming modules

Install with ease
Make your Web sites dynamically interactie
Teach yourself the Perl compiler
Learn the necessary variables
Ace object-oriented programming
Speed your work-through expert tips
Find the answers that wrap up the job

---
Two other books I would recommend are:
The Perl Cookbook
Mastering Regular Expressions

-g


UUCP wrote:

> From: "Andrew Branson" <a_branson_1998@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Printing a file
>
> Joshua Justice wrote in message ...
> <snip>>
> >@lines_from_file = <FH>;
> >
> >Not to be condescending, but you should probably find a book or reference
> >site to review. Supah-cool as Perl is, you can't really learn it by just
> >screwing around.
> >
> >- j -
> >print "Just another (minimalist) Perl hacker."
>
> You're absolutely right. I have been programming for 10 years in C, 4 in
> C++, and a bunch of other languages. I used to laugh at people struggling
> with learning a new language. Perl has certainly humbled me. I am begining
> to really enjoy the language now.
> I did buy a book - Using Perl 5 for Web Programming - published by Que. It
> sucks as a reference. The index sucks even more. I have been told to pick up
> a copy of the "camel" book. What books do you recommend?
> Thanks.
>
> Andy
>
> --
> |Fidonet:  UUCP 2:500/3.1
> |Internet: UUCP@p1.f3.n500.z2.hccfido.hcc.nl
> |
> | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.



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Date: 19 Apr 1999 06:45:58 -0700
From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
Subject: Re: invoking by "fire and forget"
Message-Id: <371b2586@cs.colorado.edu>

 [courtesy cc of this posting sent to cited author via email]

In comp.lang.perl.misc, 
    e_broyles <e_broyles@yahoo.com> writes:
:I am pretty sure
:that fork() is not available in the NT version.

So what?  Neither is most anything of interest.  You get a toy "operating
system", then you must content yourself to writing toy programs.
In other words, it's your mess, now you live in it.

I will never forgive the idiots for omitting fork.

--tom
-- 
As Mike O'Dell once said, only half jokingly, "the most brilliant
decision in all of UNIX was the choice of a *single* character for
the newline sequence"...


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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:44:06 +0100
From: "Tony Kenny" <tony@emailcyberscape.net>
Subject: lakes.PM, Cumbria, UK
Message-Id: <924525593.21391.0.nnrp-10.c2de1237@news.demon.co.uk>

Hi,

I am interested (along with a couple of others) in setting up a lakes perl
mongers group for people in and around Cumbria, UK.

Could anyone who is interested please drop a line to me:
mailto:tony@cyberscape.net , stating your location.

Please state your age if you are under 18 (as we may meet in pubs)

Thanks

Tony Kenny




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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:57:57 GMT
From: michielpeene@my-dejanews.com
Subject: LDAP and PERL
Message-Id: <7ff27j$vtn$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>

Is there anyone who knows if there's a module for PERL to access an X.500 LDAP
directory, and where to find it?
Thanks!
Michiel Peene
michielpeene@my-dejanews.com

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 06:35:32 -0500
From: "Steve Springett" <sspringett@cwe2.com>
Subject: Re: LDAP and PERL
Message-Id: <7ff4cg$skg$1@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>

Try http://www.mozilla.org/directory/




michielpeene@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
<7ff27j$vtn$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>Is there anyone who knows if there's a module for PERL to access an X.500
LDAP
>directory, and where to find it?
>Thanks!
>Michiel Peene
>michielpeene@my-dejanews.com
>
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:36:24 +0100
From: "Clyde Ingram" <cingram@pjocs.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Making a hash of 2-D and 3-D Associative Arrays
Message-Id: <924525588.22136.1.nnrp-07.9e98e5bc@news.demon.co.uk>

awk provides a simple mechanism for building and traversing
multi-dimensional associative arrays.  I would like to do the same in perl.

Apologies in advance, but I cannot decipher the FAQs discussions on hashes
of lists, hashes of hashes, etc., which I suspect may answer my question.

In awk, I know that each index 'k' to the 2-D array 'peopleArr[name, town]'
is stored internally as the concatenation of:

    name SUBSEP town

where SUBSEP is a built-in variable defaulting to "\034", a value unlikely
to appear in normal text.

So looping over the array is as simple as:

    for (k in peopleArr) {
        split(k, x, SUBSEP)
        name = x[1]
        town = x[2]
        ...

A straightforward extension to this is a 3-D array.  Suppose it is indexed
instead as 'peopleArr[name, town, job]', then use:

    for (k in peopleArr) {
        split(k, x, SUBSEP)
        name = x[1]
        town = x[2]
        job = x[3]
        ...

If some kind person could spell out how to rewrite this in perl, it would
help me expand my horizons beyond awk.  Thanks for constructive responses.

Regards,
Clyde






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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:05:58 +0100
From: "Tony Kenny" <tony@emailcyberscape.net>
Subject: Re: Multiple submits on a CGI form
Message-Id: <924519705.29909.0.nnrp-11.c2de1237@news.demon.co.uk>

When you build the form the user is about to submit, why nto give it a
unique ID, then, if that form is submitted twice, your system already knows
that that unique ID has ana ction against it and the appropriate action can
be taken on a second submit.


Tony Kenny




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Date: 19 Apr 1999 12:05:06 +0100
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: Multiple submits on a CGI form
Message-Id: <371b0de2@newsread3.dircon.co.uk>

Clinton Gormley <clint@drtech.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> And before anybody says that this should be a CGI question - I disagree.
> 

I wouldnt.  It is a CGI question plain and simple - There is no code in
your post and Doris dont do CGI.

/J\
-- 
Jonathan Stowe <jns@gellyfish.com>



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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:59:30 GMT
From: th.eichmann@gmx.net (Thomas Eichmann)
Subject: Re: Passing variables between scripts? How?
Message-Id: <371b286d.27083028@news.eunet.ch>

If they do everythin in the same shell (=process) you can define
environment variables. Read about the %ENV hash...

Thomas

On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 06:32:29 GMT, cgi@higherlove.com wrote:
>I have some scripts set-up allowing people to search a database and
>then contact others if they need to whom they find through the
>database. What I was wondering...is there anyway that I can keep a
>user's login name variable constant with them in the system, so they
>don't have to keep entering their basic "name, email, etc."
>information everytime they contact another database user? How can I
>send a session/user idenitifier with them through all their system
>usage?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Lisa



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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:58:57 GMT
From: Jeremy Gurney <c4jgurney@my-dejanews.com>
Subject: Re: Starting an application from a CGI script on NT
Message-Id: <7ff5pu$2qa$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>

In article <371AF49C.5B73C2FE@bt.com>,
  paul.clough@bt.com wrote:
> I am trying to start a Windows application from within Perl script under
> NT. I am using the IIS4.0 and the Win32::Process package. I can get the
> application process to start, but I don't actually get any application
> appear on the server machine. Is this a security limitation or do I have
> to do something with the server to get the application to run?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul.

I think this is an NT services thing - if IIS is running under a service with
its own account then anyone logged into the machine won't be able to see
applications started by it. The applications should start up and run etc but
the user won't be able to see them.

If a service is runing under thew localsystem account it can have have an
'interact with desktop' attribute, set from the services applet and hey
presto - those applications should appear on screen.

If you're not running IIS from a service then I've run out of ideas.

HTH,

Jeremy Gurney
SAS Programmer  |  Proteus Molecular Design Ltd.

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 22:06:37 -0500
From: "Brad Hilton" <bhilton@kc.net>
Subject: VB and Perl
Message-Id: <aZES2.3498$R93.35227@newsfeed.slurp.net>

How can I integrate Perl into VB?  Is it possible to program entirely in
Perl but use VB for screens?  Where can I go for information on this?

Thanks,

Brad Hilton
bhilton@kc.net




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Date: 19 Apr 1999 11:54:00 +0100
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: VB and Perl
Message-Id: <371b0b48@newsread3.dircon.co.uk>

Brad Hilton <bhilton@kc.net> wrote:
> How can I integrate Perl into VB?  Is it possible to program entirely in
> Perl but use VB for screens?  Where can I go for information on this?
> 

There was an article about 'scriptlets' in issue #12 of The Perl Journal
by Ken Bandes.  The article is quite enlightening about one way of using
Visual Basic to create a GUI for Perl (or is that using Perl to give 
Visual Basic some utility).  You can get back issues of TPJ via:

<http://www.tpj.com>


/J\
-- 
Jonathan Stowe <jns@gellyfish.com>



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Date: 19 Apr 1999 06:48:11 -0700
From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
Subject: Re: VB and Perl
Message-Id: <371b260b@cs.colorado.edu>

 [courtesy cc of this posting sent to cited author via email]

In comp.lang.perl.misc, 
    "Brad Hilton" <bhilton@kc.net> writes:
:How can I integrate Perl into VB?  Is it possible to program entirely in
:Perl but use VB for screens?  Where can I go for information on this?

Burn your Microsoft crapware, get yourself a real newsreader, and stop
embarrassing yourself by posting the same thing again and again and
again and again and again and again and again and again and again and
again and again.

--tom
-- 
There is a need to keep from being locked into Open Systems. --IBM sales rep


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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:27:41 GMT
From: vivekvp@yahoo.com
Subject: Viewing a spreadsheet?
Message-Id: <7ff7fm$4b0$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>

Hello,

I am looking to display a spreadsheet via html.  I would like to take the
contents of an excel spreadsheet and be able to dump them to a web page.

How do I go about doing this?  Any help - please email me at
vivekvp@spliced.zzn.com

Thank you!


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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:13:55 +0930
From: "Wyzelli" <wyzelli@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Viewing a spreadsheet?
Message-Id: <fyFS2.6$4x2.1874@vic.nntp.telstra.net>

Use Excel's built in 'save as HTML' from the file menu.. assuming you have
installed the HTML authoring tools for Office.  Why in a Perl group?

Wyzelli

vivekvp@yahoo.com wrote in message <7ff7fm$4b0$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>Hello,
>
>I am looking to display a spreadsheet via html.  I would like to take the
>contents of an excel spreadsheet and be able to dump them to a web page.
>
>How do I go about doing this?  Any help - please email me at
>vivekvp@spliced.zzn.com
>
>Thank you!
>
>
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Date: 19 Apr 1999 06:53:47 -0700
From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
Subject: Re: Viewing a spreadsheet?
Message-Id: <371b275b@cs.colorado.edu>

 [courtesy cc of this posting sent to cited author via email]

In comp.lang.perl.misc, vivekvp@yahoo.com writes:
:I am looking to display a spreadsheet via html.  I would like to take the
:contents of an excel spreadsheet and be able to dump them to a web page.

My guess is in your case, you shell out your shekels and pay the Gods
of Redmond their due.  That's just a guess based on apparent posting
environment and general inferred levels of cluefulness.

Hint: you posted to the wrong newsgroup.

--tom
-- 
You can measure a programmer's perspective by noting his attitude on
the continuing viability of FORTRAN.


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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:08:50 GMT
From: Andrew Beer <abeer@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
Subject: Win32::FileSecurity
Message-Id: <371B1CD2.C699A301@hplb.hpl.hp.com>

Hi,

Does anyone out there know why Win32::FileSecurity dosen't report DACL
entries for users who are explicitly denied any permissions, ie

europe1\abeer    No Access

Everything else seems to work ok and for once I don't think it's my
crappy programming.

Cheers,

Andy



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