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Sat Apr 17 11:07:29 1999
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 99 08:00:19 -0700
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Perl-Users Digest Sat, 17 Apr 1999 Volume: 8 Number: 5405
Today's topics:
'Require' options <kraaikae@xs4all.nl>
Can i run cgi in Win95 of my PC ?? (Kevin !;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;)
Can i run cgi in Win95 of my PC ?? <austin95002887@yahoo.com>
Re: Can PERL be used to do block editing? <haakon.alstadheim@sds.no>
Cant make exe agniora@usa.net
Cant run net::SMTP module dependent files agniora@usa.net
CGI v. HTTP headers, was Re: FAQ 9.10: How do I redirec <flavell@mail.cern.ch>
Re: FAQ 9.4: How do I extract URLs? (Bart Lateur)
Re: flocking question - worried (Graham Ashton)
Is there a way to get the drives info in Windows 95 (Venkateswara Rao Polisetti)
Re: like print <<...; load a variable? (Leo Schalkwyk)
London, highly skilled perl programmer required danny@dircon.co.uk
Re: New FAQ: How can I read in an entire file all at on <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
Re: Newbie Question: String Manipulation <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Re: Opening .Pl Files-Simple question (Bart Lateur)
Re: Opening .Pl Files-Simple question (Bart Lateur)
Perl showcase code snippets (Bart Lateur)
Re: Question about variables, and Perl in general <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
read/write to serial port ? <peter.field@sh.bel.alcatel.be>
Re: read/write to serial port ? <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
Some troubles with format agniora@usa.net
Wanted: some help for a perl script (Marc Herms)
Re: warnings on Win32 (Leo Schalkwyk)
Special: Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 12 Dec 98 (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 16:35:31 +0200
From: "Egon Kraaikamp" <kraaikae@xs4all.nl>
Subject: 'Require' options
Message-Id: <7fa6n5$b0o$1@news1.xs4all.nl>
Is it possible to 'require' a file outside the server's own filesystem (Unix
and/or NT) e.g. by reffering to another IP address?
Anyone having experiences with this?
We would like to create centralized managed and maintained script(s) with
some general functions included for several (Unix and NT) servers who are
running our scripts.
Egon.
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:52:06 GMT
From: austin95002887@yahoo.com (Kevin !;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;)
Subject: Can i run cgi in Win95 of my PC ??
Message-Id: <1107_924346326@austin>
Can i run cgi in Win95 of my PC ??
( I have no Network Card, and i really do not want to buy one
because of this reason. )
Because, i want to test the cgi program wriiten by myself before
upload the cgi to server.
HE and SHE - %L )M &o :
======================
http://start.cgirealm.com/heshe1/
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:09:23 +0800
From: "Kevin !;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;" <austin95002887@yahoo.com>
Subject: Can i run cgi in Win95 of my PC ??
Message-Id: <7f9tel$5pv6@news1.cityu.edu.hk>
Can i run cgi in Win95 of my PC ??
( I have no Network Card, and i really do not want to buy one because of
this reason. )
Because, i want to test the cgi program wriiten by myself before upload the
cgi to server.
HE and SHE - %L )M &o :
======================
http://start.cgirealm.com/heshe1/
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Date: 17 Apr 1999 16:48:21 +0100
From: hals <haakon.alstadheim@sds.no>
Subject: Re: Can PERL be used to do block editing?
Message-Id: <uu2uf5jui.fsf@sds.no>
It is easy to write a real recursive descent parser in perl, but
performance might be an issue. The only way to find out is to
try it. If you use one of the parser modules on cpan, it should
not take you long to write up a prototype.
Someone who knows perl would probably not use a fullblown parser
for such a specific task, but mucking with seek and tell or
"negative zero-with lookahead " regexes always gets me confused
though I guess even that approach is easier in perl than in C.
Precicely which modules to use from CPAN I'm not the right person
to tell you. GAAS/HTML-Parser-2.22.tar.gz seems like a good
starting point though.
Trout <matthew.dewell@Sun.COM> writes:
[...snip]
> I was thinking of PUSHing and POPing the HTML file line by line with a
> compare of the next line to the first line in the code between the <TD>
> and </TD> and starting the replacement. For the next line of text after
> the <TD> does not match any other line in the file, and then has a few
> lines after it to be replaced until the </TD>. I'm just not sure about
> how to do this even.
[...snip]
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 07:59:13 GMT
From: agniora@usa.net
Subject: Cant make exe
Message-Id: <7f9f0f$i5s$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
when i try to make an exe file using the p2x.exe it says it cant find the pm
files in the @INC. and even after adding the necessary directories to the @INC
using the use lib dirname it doesnt seem to put any effect.
i am using ActivePerl on WinNT, and my perl is installed on g:\perl directory.
heres a sample file i want to make an exe of.
use lib 'g:/perl/site/lib/';
use lib 'g:/perl/lib/';
use Net::SMTP;
$smtp = Net::SMTP->new('spice.agni.com',
etrn => 'junk.agni.com',
timeout => 30,
debug => 3)
or die "cant connect";
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 08:03:43 GMT
From: agniora@usa.net
Subject: Cant run net::SMTP module dependent files
Message-Id: <7f9f8s$i9k$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
When i try to run a perl file that uses the net::SMTP module, it doesnt seem
to be working. I installed the libnet module. and the message it gives when i
try running perl myprog.pl it says "The specified path could not be found"
heres my program : #use lib 'g:/perl/site/lib/'; use lib 'g:/perl/lib/'; use
Net::SMTP; $smtp = Net::SMTP->new('spice.agni.com', etrn => 'junk.agni.com',
timeout => 30, debug => 3) or die "cant connect";
can anyone help me here?
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 14:27:02 +0200
From: "Alan J. Flavell" <flavell@mail.cern.ch>
Subject: CGI v. HTTP headers, was Re: FAQ 9.10: How do I redirect to another , page?
Message-Id: <Pine.HPP.3.95a.990417135350.10863B-100000@hpplus01.cern.ch>
On 17 Apr 1999, Tom Christiansen wrote:
> How do I redirect to another page?
>
> Instead of sending back a `Content-Type' as the headers of your
> reply, send back a `Location:' header.
It seems to me a pity that this draws no distinction between the
"CGI.out" programming interface, i.e between the CGI process and the
server, and the HTTP protocol and transaction across the network. The
distinction is a subtle one, but represents a common cause for
confusion, as I think I detect in this answer itself.
> Note that relative URLs in these headers can cause strange effects
> because of "optimizations" that servers do.
The CGI.out interface specification (I'm referring to the one at NCSA,
in default of any finalised RFC on the topic) is very clear on this
point. A CGI "Location" response that specifies a virtual path on the
server is _not_ a redirection. Spec-conforming servers are _required_
to treat it as an HTTP transaction with status 200 and the contents of
the specified resource, not a redirection. Only if an absolute URL is
specified does the CGI specification call for a genuine HTTP redirection
to be performed. A server which were to detect that the latter kind of
redirection was in fact local, and "optimised" it to the first kind,
would be in violation of the specification, AFAICS: would this be what
the FAQ author had in mind, maybe?
> print "Location: $url\n\n";
..
> To be correct to the spec, each of those `"\n"' should really each
> be `"\015\012"',
If one were creating genuine HTTP headers, then \015\012 would be the
protcol-correct thing to do. With non-NPH CGI processes, at least, it's
the _server's_ job to respond to the "CGI headers" (to coin a phrase)
which the process sends to the server across the CGI.out interface, and
to generate a complete and correct HTTP protocol response based on them.
I'd say that it's the server's job to ensure that correctly formed (i.e
terminated by CF/LF) HTTP headers are created, at least for non-NPH
scripts; the platform-specific end-of-line representation would seem
entirely acceptable in the response that is sent across the CGI.out
interface of a non-NPH script, at least I can find nothing in the CGI
spec that says otherwise (it even explicitly refers to "a line with only
a linefeed or CR/LF" - presumably in reference to the unix platform; I
suppose if one were pedantic that would rule out the CR-only usage of
the Mac, but I doubt that it was intended to).
[I'm responding to this where I found it. If it was thought more proper
to set f'up to the CGI authoring group, that would seem fine too.]
> There is a need to keep from being locked into Open Systems. --IBM sales rep
Nice one ;-)
all the best
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 08:21:56 GMT
From: bart.lateur@skynet.be (Bart Lateur)
Subject: Re: FAQ 9.4: How do I extract URLs?
Message-Id: <371f3535.2652602@news.skynet.be>
[posted and mailed]
Tom Christiansen wrote:
> How do I extract URLs?
>
> A quick but imperfect approach is
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl -n00
> # qxurl - tchrist@perl.com
> print "$2\n" while m{
> < \s*
> A \s+ HREF \s* = \s* (["']) (.*?) \1
> \s* >
> }gsix;
>
> This version does not adjust relative URLs, understand alternate
> bases, deal with HTML comments, deal with HREF and NAME attributes
> in the same tag, or accept URLs themselves as arguments.
It also doesn't work if the <A> tag contains any other attributes, of
which TARGET is the most popular one (but it's not even the only one).
This deserves an extra warning, I'd think.
Bart.
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Date: 17 Apr 1999 13:04:26 GMT
From: billynospam@mirror.bt.co.uk (Graham Ashton)
Subject: Re: flocking question - worried
Message-Id: <slrn7hh1ms.aj9.billynospam@wing.mirror.bt.co.uk>
In article <MPG.11810ede1150a9b8989697@news.idt.net>, Daniel Beckham wrote:
>Also, I've always been concerned with this situation:
>
>open
>flock(ex)
>read
>flock(un)
>close
>unlink
>
>What happens if the external program opens the file between my close and
>unlink? I'm assuming that my unlink will fail and the external program
>will write new data to the end of old data that I already have.
I'm not sure about this, but have just been reading unlink(2) (on linux);
unlink deletes a name from the filesystem. If that name
was the last link to a file and no processes have the file
open the file is deleted and the space it was using is
made available for reuse.
If the name was the last link to a file but any processes
still have the file open the file will remain in existence
until the last file descriptor referring to it is closed.
so if (as I suspect) the Perl unlink function is an interface to the
unlink system call, the external process will maintain its file
descriptor. It looks like the file will be removed once the external
program has finished with it, in the situation you describe.
It's an interesting question though - how do you safely delete a file,
whilst checking that nobody else is using it?
>How can I prevent that from happening? The only work around I see is
>to keep track of old data and make sure I don't read any of it back
>into my program... not the most elegant way I would think.
I've no idea.
--
Graham
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 20:27:23 GMT
From: vraopolisetti@netzero.net (Venkateswara Rao Polisetti)
Subject: Is there a way to get the drives info in Windows 95
Message-Id: <371647b0.25605275@207.227.203.4>
Platform : Windows 95
Is there a way to get the drives info in Windows 95 that is similar to
NT's Win32::AdminMisc::GetDrives().
The above module works only in NT.
Any pointers please.
Thanks,
Venkateswara Rao
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Date: 17 Apr 1999 14:13:59 GMT
From: schalkwy@minnie.RZ-Berlin.MPG.DE (Leo Schalkwyk)
Subject: Re: like print <<...; load a variable?
Message-Id: <7fa4v7$du1$1@fu-berlin.de>
Tad McClellan (tadmc@metronet.com) wrote:
: Leo Schalkwyk (schalkwy@minnie.RZ-Berlin.MPG.DE) wrote:
: : I'm sure I'm not the only one who had totally missed the existence
: : of single-quotish here-documents in the docs. Is it a recent
: : feature or have I been asleep for ages?
: And I didn't even mention the backticked here-doc...
: print <<`ENDLS`;
: ls -l
: ENDLS
: I think you have been asleep :-)
I admit it, I have been asleep: there is a good description
in perldata that I had missed. A sentence in perlop pointing
there may save others trouble.
Leo
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 11:56:45 GMT
From: danny@dircon.co.uk
Subject: London, highly skilled perl programmer required
Message-Id: <371876c9.1933128@news.dircon.co.uk>
A special job is available for you if you are a talented perl
programmer and want to work with great people.
We need a senior Perl, CGI programmer to work as part of a highly
skilled team. You'll provide functionality to a high profile website.
Knowledge of SQL and Linux a plus. A varied role in a lively young
company. The position is permanent - the salary is based on your
experience and how talented you are.
If you'e interested, please send your CV.
please Email danny@dircon.co.uk
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Date: 17 Apr 1999 05:25:06 -0700
From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
Subject: Re: New FAQ: How can I read in an entire file all at once?
Message-Id: <37186f92@cs.colorado.edu>
[courtesy cc of this posting sent to cited author via email]
In comp.lang.perl.misc, abigail@fnx.com writes:
:Being dependent on whether other programs are installed isn't what
:I would call portable.
Trying to program without other programs is painful and rude.
:A huge drawback I see for `cat $file` is the
:lack of easy handling of errors. $! won't be set, and the return value
:of `` isn't useful either.
There's $?, but it's numeric only.
--tom
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Date: 17 Apr 1999 10:44:40 -0000
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: Newbie Question: String Manipulation
Message-Id: <7f9omo$7a5$1@gellyfish.btinternet.com>
On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:45:37 -0700 David Cassell wrote:
>
> My point
> [which obviously was not clear] was that it appeared to me that the
> poster was going to be moving into parsing/regexing of html pages
> next, and that there was a better solution than trying to do the
> analogous techniques on html.
>
Doris thought that it looked more like he was writing an httpd logfile
parser or even indeed an HTTP server itself (Though the latter is unlikely).
/J\
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 08:21:57 GMT
From: bart.lateur@skynet.be (Bart Lateur)
Subject: Re: Opening .Pl Files-Simple question
Message-Id: <3720378f.3254635@news.skynet.be>
Nat wrote:
>Hi, please help, this is a simple question, how do I open .pl files? I can't
>use notepad or simpletext because they are too big, I am trying to install a
>shopping cart. If I use an html editor it crashes my system, any ideas? email
>me at sthenri@ntr.ne
Try a different editor.
I've recently stumbled across the GWD text editor, and I'm rather fond
of it. It has a built-in (primitive but useful) syntax highlighting for
both Perl and HTML (and more), shows line numbers, has no 32k limit, and
can easily be configured so that you can run Perl scripts (if you
already have Perl installed) and capture the output.
It's cheap shareware (20$), but it's not crippled. Info and download at
<http://www.gwd.com/>. Both Win3.1 and Win32 versions are available.
Bart.
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 08:25:11 GMT
From: bart.lateur@skynet.be (Bart Lateur)
Subject: Re: Opening .Pl Files-Simple question
Message-Id: <37264507.6702552@news.skynet.be>
Nat wrote:
> email me at sthenri@ntr.ne
: ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
:<sthenri@ntr.ne>
:
: ----- Transcript of session follows -----
:550 <sthenri@ntr.ne>... Host unknown (Name server: ntr.ne: host not found)
The nerve of some people...
Bart.
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 09:10:19 GMT
From: bart.lateur@skynet.be (Bart Lateur)
Subject: Perl showcase code snippets
Message-Id: <3718480d.7476830@news.skynet.be>
Several times, people have already posted threads on why people like
Perl, what features they like best about Perl, how it compares to other
languages, ...
I'd like to give this a little twist.
What I like most about Perl are hashes and regexes. Variable
interpolation is a decent third. So, here's a simple yet practical piece
of code, that pretty much summarizes Perl's power for me:
%entity = ( '&' => '&', '<' => '<', '>' => '>');
s/([&<>])/$entity{$1}/g;
print "<PRE>$_</PRE>\n";
As for language comparisons: try converting that to your (other)
favorite language.
Any other examples?
Bart.
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Date: 17 Apr 1999 11:17:27 -0000
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: Question about variables, and Perl in general
Message-Id: <7f9qk7$7ck$1@gellyfish.btinternet.com>
On 15 Apr 1999 14:57:29 GMT Aidan Rogers wrote:
>
> Anyhow, the scalar tries to treat the number as a number, and ends up giving
> me incorrect data. If it treated it as a string, however, I know I wouldn't
> get that problem. Hence, the post, because I'm unsure how to get Perl to
> treat the value as a string in this instance.
>
Doris thinks that you are probably treating your 'string' as a 'number'
and that is causing it lose the leading zeroes :
$number = '0000001';
print $number,"\n";
$number = $number + 1;
print $number,"\n";
gellyfish@gellyfish:/home/gellyfish/clpmtest > perl trim.pl
0000001
2
If this is the case then you will either need to use sprintf to reformat
the variable with the zero file or perhaps use the magical autoincrement:
$number = '0000001';
print $number,"\n";
$number++;
print $number,"\n";
$number = '0000001';
$number = $number + 1;
print $number,"\n";
$sprintf = sprintf("%07d",$number);
print $sprintf,"\n";
Giving :
0000001
0000002
2
0000002
Of course what Doris says comes from a discussion with some dodgy spirit
guide and for myself I'd like to see the code ...
/J\
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 12:44:31 +0200
From: Peter Field <peter.field@sh.bel.alcatel.be>
Subject: read/write to serial port ?
Message-Id: <3718660F.C59FAC10@sh.bel.alcatel.be>
Hello,
I am new to perl. Could you somebody tell me how to read and write a
string to the serial port of a UNIX machine (/dev/ttya) ?
I don't want to treat the port like a file (there will be no EOF) but
like STDIN & STDOUT.
With many thanks,
Peter.
---------------------------------------
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Francis Wellesplein 1
B-2018 Antwerp, Belgium
Phone : (+32) 3 240 3997
Fax : (+32) 3 240 9908
e-mail: fieldp@sh.bel.alcatel.be
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Date: 17 Apr 1999 05:30:45 -0700
From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
Subject: Re: read/write to serial port ?
Message-Id: <371870e5@cs.colorado.edu>
[courtesy cc of this posting sent to cited author via email]
In comp.lang.perl.misc,
Peter Field <peter.field@sh.bel.alcatel.be> writes:
:I am new to perl. Could you somebody tell me how to read and write a
:string to the serial port of a UNIX machine (/dev/ttya) ?
:
:I don't want to treat the port like a file (there will be no EOF) but
:like STDIN & STDOUT.
It *is* just a file. Open it. Write it. Use happy ioctls
if you'd like.
This is a FAQ.
--tom
--
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 08:35:27 GMT
From: agniora@usa.net
Subject: Some troubles with format
Message-Id: <7f9h4f$jta$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
the following script is giving the error
format not terminated at myprog.pl line 13
heres my program :
sub write_line {
local ($astring, $anumber) = @_;
$~ = "ALINE";
write;
}
write_line "hello", 24.793;
format ALINE =
@<<<<<<<<<<<< @#####.##
$astring, $anumber
.
anyone knows whats going on here?
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 14:34:45 GMT
From: marc@mercator.net (Marc Herms)
Subject: Wanted: some help for a perl script
Message-Id: <37189bfb.24315004@news.tiscalinet.it>
I have just bought a perl script for site-news and would like to make
some changes. Because I don`t want to bother the company where I
bougth the script, I`d like to have some help from one of you.
If someone has some spare time and would like to help me with just
some small things for free, please let me know.
It4s really a small thing.
Please respond to: marc@mercator.net
Thanks,
Marc
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Date: 17 Apr 1999 14:50:06 GMT
From: schalkwy@minnie.RZ-Berlin.MPG.DE (Leo Schalkwyk)
Subject: Re: warnings on Win32
Message-Id: <7fa72u$du1$2@fu-berlin.de>
Gus (spg@quokka.com) wrote:
: Seems simple but I can't figure how to turn on warnings in Win32
: scripts (command line is not a problem)
: Unix is a layup:
: #! /usr/bin/perl -w
: but since Win32 doesn't recognize the shebang, how would I turn on
: warnings?
: Thanks in advance
: gus
: Oh yeah, getting a real OS is not an option ;
well, either trying it or looking in the perlrun manpage will tell you
that perl is smart enough to harvest the -w switch from the shebang line
even on systems that don't understand it. From perlrun:
The #! line is always examined for switches as the line is being parsed.
Thus, if you're on a machine that allows only one argument with the #!
line, or worse, doesn't even recognize the #! line, you still can get
consistent switch behavior regardless of how Perl was invoked, even if -x
was used to find the beginning of the script.
Further handy tricks are described in the following paragraphs of perlrun.
You can get a reasonable unix-like environment without changing OS that
includes a usable bash shell (and working shebangs) by installing the free
cygwin b20.1 package from cygnus.
Leo
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To request back copies (available for a week or so), send your request
to almanac@ruby.oce.orst.edu with the command "send perl-users x.y",
where x is the volume number and y is the issue number.
The Meta-FAQ, an article containing information about the FAQ, is
available by requesting "send perl-users meta-faq". The real FAQ, as it
appeared last in the newsgroup, can be retrieved with the request "send
perl-users FAQ". Due to their sizes, neither the Meta-FAQ nor the FAQ
are included in the digest.
The "mini-FAQ", which is an updated version of the Meta-FAQ, is
available by requesting "send perl-users mini-faq". It appears twice
weekly in the group, but is not distributed in the digest.
For other requests pertaining to the digest, send mail to
perl-users-request@ruby.oce.orst.edu. Do not waste your time or mine
sending perl questions to the -request address, I don't have time to
answer them even if I did know the answer.
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