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Mon Mar 29 18:03:32 1999
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 99 15:00:19 -0800
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Perl-Users Digest Mon, 29 Mar 1999 Volume: 8 Number: 5253
Today's topics:
Re: ANNOUNCE: Champaign-Urbana.pm Meeting Mon Mar 29 (Greg Bacon)
Re: Calcultor CGI <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Catching control C's.. <horizon@internetexpress.com.au>
Re: Catching control C's.. (Greg Bacon)
Re: Connecting to Oracle 8 database from Perl via web s <alex@kawo2.rwth-aachen.de>
Dumb question about drive assignments <jim.ray@west.boeing.com>
hmm- eR: T-e-s-Tplese help ...... (a spammers cause)? <tripix@tdi-net.freeserve.co.uk>
How to create NT service in Perl? <doug@mcbride.net>
HyperCard or perl scripting? <diamond@camalott.com>
Re: Need automatic forwarding perl script <gsx97@usa.net>
need help in file I/O <fangyuan@cse.buffalo.edu>
Re: need help in file I/O (Greg Bacon)
Re: need help in file I/O <paladin@uvic.ca>
Re: Need I lock the database file, If I open it using d <zenin@bawdycaste.org>
OLE automation <bdaly@averstar.com>
Perl efficiency vs. C++. <hschao@crosskeys.com>
Perl scripts executing on CD-ROMs? dshaykewich@my-dejanews.com
Perl XS Performance Q. <dmulholl@cs.indiana.edu>
pro's & con's of *.db databases? (Ray)
Problem... <debot@xs4all.nl>
Re: PWS, Win95, CGI and Perl <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
reading from/writing to Usenet w/ Perl (Ray)
Sendmail won't close <jesse.n@home.com>
Re: Sendmail won't close <debot@xs4all.nl>
TEST - Please help <jeff@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu>
Re: Why do we like Perl? Hugh_Dunne@nospam.com
Re: Why do we like Perl? <dermot.musgrove@virgin.net>
Re: WIN32::SERVICES::GETSTATUS mclaughlinj@leaders.ccl.org
Special: Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 12 Dec 98 (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)
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Date: 29 Mar 1999 20:44:29 GMT
From: gbacon@itsc.uah.edu (Greg Bacon)
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Champaign-Urbana.pm Meeting Mon Mar 29
Message-Id: <7doond$k1a$2@info2.uah.edu>
In article <7dolnk$g51$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>,
d-lewart@uiuc.edu (Daniel S. Lewart) writes:
: Champaign-Urbana Perl Mongers,
<FLAME Level="0%">
[14:38] ettsn% perl
package Champaign-Urbana.pm;
syntax error at - line 1, near "package Champaign-"
Execution of - aborted due to compilation errors.
But seriously.. I've always seen the name of your area permuted the
other way, as in uiuc.edu. Are you just being contrary, or is there
something that we non-locals don't know?
</FLAME>
Greg
--
Join the Army: travel to exotic distant lands; meet exciting, unusual people,
and kill them.
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Date: 29 Mar 1999 21:12:11 -0000
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: Calcultor CGI
Message-Id: <7doqbb$13k$1@gellyfish.btinternet.com>
On Sun, 28 Mar 1999 10:54:36 -0800 Jason wrote:
> Does anyone have a CGI example of a simple Calculator that will use the
> input from a web page and run the variables there an equation and post the
> answer. If so can you post it here or e-mail me. I want to use it as an
> example so I can put some other calculator scripts together. One other
> question does it mater what version of perl my service provider is using?
>
Of course I would cheat :
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
use strict;
use CGI qw(:standard);
use CGI::Carp qw(fatalsToBrowser);
use IPC::Open2;
use Symbol;
my $calculator = '/usr/bin/bc -q';
my $expression;
$| = 1;
print header,start_html("Calculator");
print startform(-method => 'GET', -action => 'cal.pl'),
textfield(-name => 'expression'),
submit,
endform;
if( $expression = param('expression'))
{
my $WRITE = gensym();
my $READ = gensym();
open2($READ,$WRITE,$calculator);
print $WRITE $expression,"\n";
close $WRITE;
while(<$READ>)
{
print STDOUT $_,"<BR>\n";
}
}
print end_html;
Of course you will need 'bc' ;-}
--
Jonathan Stowe <jns@gellyfish.com>
Some of your questions answered:
<URL:http://www.btinternet.com/~gellyfish/resources/wwwfaq.htm>
Hastings: <URL:http://www.newhoo.com/Regional/UK/England/East_Sussex/Hastings>
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 06:26:12 +1000
From: Mick <horizon@internetexpress.com.au>
Subject: Catching control C's..
Message-Id: <36FFE1E3.91CFE98D@internetexpress.com.au>
Hi..
Is it possible to catch control C's from STDIN.
I wanted to write a small login sequence, and I wanted to ensure people
cannot just control C out.
Thanks,
Mick
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Date: 29 Mar 1999 20:49:51 GMT
From: gbacon@itsc.uah.edu (Greg Bacon)
Subject: Re: Catching control C's..
Message-Id: <7dop1f$k1a$3@info2.uah.edu>
In article <36FFE1E3.91CFE98D@internetexpress.com.au>,
Mick <horizon@internetexpress.com.au> writes:
: Is it possible to catch control C's from STDIN.
: I wanted to write a small login sequence, and I wanted to ensure people
: cannot just control C out.
Please read Section 8 of the Perl FAQ, paying particular attention
when you reach
"How do I trap control characters/signals?"
The most up-to-date version of the Perl FAQ should come with your Perl
distribution. If it didn't, scream bloody murder at your vendor and
visit <URL:http://www.perl.com/CPAN/doc/manual/html/pod/perlfaq.html>.
Greg
--
Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies.
-- Nietzsche
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 00:56:57 +0200
From: Alex Farber <alex@kawo2.rwth-aachen.de>
To: Bill Morgan <wmorgan@nswc.navy.mil>
Subject: Re: Connecting to Oracle 8 database from Perl via web server
Message-Id: <37000539.E49FFC91@kawo2.rwth-aachen.de>
Bill Morgan wrote:
>
> I am running Netscape Enterprise Server 3.6 under
> NT 4.0 with service pack 4. I am using Active
> State Perl to connect to an Oracle 8 database via
> ODBC. Is there a better way to connect to Oracle
> from Perl under NT such as using native Oracle
http://www.arcana.co.uk/technologia/perl/DBI/doc/tpj5/
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 20:07:15 GMT
From: "news.boeing.com" <jim.ray@west.boeing.com>
Subject: Dumb question about drive assignments
Message-Id: <F9DH81.Fx9@news.boeing.com>
I am converting my UNXI perl to NT. So far all is working. The question is
this. I am running IIS as my webserver. The HTML and CGI's are on the
server with the IIS. My data that I am using to create my pages sit on
onther computer connected by mapping network dirves.
How do I tell the cgi to look at the MAP drive?
Example
CGI is in "/inetpub/wwwroot/division/cgi-bin"
HTML is in ""/inetpub/wwwroot/division" (The HTML calls the CGI)
Data is in MAP drive "\\nt-server-01\files" which is map to the "G" drive.
How do I call it from the CGI?
Thanks for any information
--
Jim Ray
Delta Program NT Administrator
The Boeing Company
714-896-2038
jim.ray@west.boeing.com
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 21:18:35 +0100
From: "Wayne Keenan" <tripix@tdi-net.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: hmm- eR: T-e-s-Tplese help ...... (a spammers cause)?
Message-Id: <7donla$47s$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>
get out of town!
an MD with a sinus sig, call me sterotypically, I think not.
Anyways, he probably wont read this! not if his NNTP acces is really
screwed
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 13:43:00 -0800
From: Doug McBride <doug@mcbride.net>
Subject: How to create NT service in Perl?
Message-Id: <36FFF3E4.F4AFD98E@mcbride.net>
I see that the Win32::Service module lets me control services, but how
do I create a new service? I think there's a Win32 API call to do this,
but has it been exported to Perl already?
Thanks!
--
Doug McBride - doug@mcbride.net - n|c - http://www.nc.com - 650.631.5268
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 15:12:57 -0600
From: "ACR" <diamond@camalott.com>
Subject: HyperCard or perl scripting?
Message-Id: <7doq3v$4n6@enews4.newsguy.com>
I am making Camera Repair Articles that I will sell on CD's. I was looking
for some software to make an EXE file that would run on Mac and PC
computers. My program is laid out like a e- book with: text, images, and a
few animations, for about 200 pages. I was told that I needed a HyperCard
type program for this. I found a web page that suggested several such as
MetaCard and ClickWorks. But, it also suggested some scripting languages:
Tcl/Tk, Perl, REAL basic, and Visual Basic. This site
is:http://www.mactechnics.org/document/hypersig.html
The HyperCard programs, I understand a little. It's a fill in the card with
text and some simplfied scripting. But, the scripting languages they
suggested I don't understand at all.
Can I use any of these scripting languages for my project? Would I want to,
or should I go with a HyperCard program like MetaCard? (I only know HTML,
but no scripting lang. Also I use a Mac.)
Best Regards
Zane Kori
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 16:16:14 -0500
From: "J. Parsons" <gsx97@usa.net>
Subject: Re: Need automatic forwarding perl script
Message-Id: <7doqds$o1u@news1.snet.net>
Actually, sweetheart - that code is exactly taken from HomeSite 4, one of
the most popular HTML coding tools being used. Incompetent or not, I'm sure
that the crew at Allaire could buy and sell you without blinking.
But what is even more interesting is how you flame the original poster for
posting a topic not related to Perl, yet you post several messages as well
for the same topic. We all applaud your desire to clean the NG of unrelated
posts, but you may want to start with yourself first.
> \\ To answer your question, you don't need a script to do what you're
asking.
> \\ Put this in your page:
> \\
> \\ <meta http-equiv="REFRESH" content="1; url=http://www.new-site.com">
>
>
> This is bad. Very bad. A sign of an incompetent author.
> See my other posting on this subject.
>
>
> Abigail
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 15:18:58 -0500
From: Fang Yuan <fangyuan@cse.buffalo.edu>
Subject: need help in file I/O
Message-Id: <Pine.GSO.3.96.990329150130.20388A-100000@pollux.cse.Buffalo.EDU>
Hi,
I am a beginner in using perl. I have the following program.
my $i;
for ($i=0;$i<10;$i++){
test($i);
}
sub test{
my ($in)=@_;
open(FILE2,">temp.dat");
printf FILE2 ("$in");
close(FILE2);
}
I want to put 0-9 into file temp.dat, but only 9 is there. How can I
modify it?
Thanks for your reply,
Fang
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Date: 29 Mar 1999 20:53:23 GMT
From: gbacon@itsc.uah.edu (Greg Bacon)
Subject: Re: need help in file I/O
Message-Id: <7dop83$k1a$4@info2.uah.edu>
In article <Pine.GSO.3.96.990329150130.20388A-100000@pollux.cse.buffalo.edu>,
Fang Yuan <fangyuan@cse.buffalo.edu> writes:
: my $i;
: for ($i=0;$i<10;$i++){
: test($i);
: }
:
: sub test{
: my ($in)=@_;
: open(FILE2,">temp.dat");
: printf FILE2 ("$in");
: close(FILE2);
: }
:
: I want to put 0-9 into file temp.dat, but only 9 is there. How can I
: modify it?
You're clobbering temp.dat with each call to open(). You want to append
data to the file. Check the open() documentation in perlfunc for how
to open a file for appending.
Greg
--
Just because I don't care doesn't meant I don't understand.
-- H.J.S.
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 12:55:55 -0800
From: Draco Paladin <paladin@uvic.ca>
To: Fang Yuan <fangyuan@cse.buffalo.edu>
Subject: Re: need help in file I/O
Message-Id: <Pine.A41.4.05.9903291246030.34064-100000@unix4.UVic.CA>
[posted and cc'd]
On Mon, 29 Mar 1999, Fang Yuan wrote:
> sub test{
> my ($in)=@_;
> open(FILE2,">temp.dat");
Always test your open calls, even (especially) in test code.
open(FILE2,">temp.dat") or die "Can't open temp.dat: $!\n";
But this isn't your immediate problem.
Using the > to open a file opens it and then truncates it. (ie. If the
file exists it will be overwritten with the new data.) Use >> to append
to the file if it exists, where the new data will be written to the end of
the file.
open(FILE2,">>temp.dat") or die "Can't open temp.dat: $!\n";
Read perldoc perldoc -f open for more information.
> printf FILE2 ("$in");
> close(FILE2);
> }
--
Mother is the name for GOD on the lips and
hearts of all children. - Eric Draven
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Date: 29 Mar 1999 21:36:36 GMT
From: Zenin <zenin@bawdycaste.org>
Subject: Re: Need I lock the database file, If I open it using dbmopen?
Message-Id: <922743446.826084@thrush.omix.com>
Sergei Gnezdov <sergeiga@hotpop.com> wrote:
: I'm using dbmopen to do changes in database file like this: dbmopen (%db,
: $db_name, oct (0666)); If two users will try to change the same file will
: it be corrupted or not?
It will.
: If yes, then how can I lock it, because I do not have filehandle to lock
: the file using flock.
See the DB_File man page for details about locking DBM files. If no
method there suits you, you can also open up a "dummy" file and lock
that instead. -If all your processes agree on a common file to lock
on, it doens't matter if that file isn't what is really being
modified.
--
-Zenin (zenin@archive.rhps.org)
Yah, Emacs is a good OS, but I prefer FreeBSD.
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 20:55:41 GMT
From: Bob Daly <bdaly@averstar.com>
Subject: OLE automation
Message-Id: <36FFE8CD.C36C0A06@averstar.com>
Does anyone know a good source for examples on how to do OLE automation
(in Win32::OLE), specifically concerning MS Word?
I want a Perl script to do an on the fly mail merge in Word, filling
merge fields of a document using a Perl generated text file. This is
not that complicated, I just can't find any example code anywhere (I've
found some for Excel, but not Word).
Thanks,
Bob Daly
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 15:25:17 -0500
From: Heng Sun Chao <hschao@crosskeys.com>
Subject: Perl efficiency vs. C++.
Message-Id: <36FFE1AD.4E4977FB@crosskeys.com>
Greetings,
I'm a newbie to Perl. I am trying to determine if it worth
implementing some software in PERL or to maintain C++.
My main concern is speed and maintenance. I was wondering if there
are any studies or benchmarks comparing the speeds of the two languages.
Thanx.
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 20:52:11 GMT
From: dshaykewich@my-dejanews.com
Subject: Perl scripts executing on CD-ROMs?
Message-Id: <7dop5m$s15$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Can I use a Perl interpretor on a CD-ROM to process a Perl script called from
the same CD-ROM?
or...
Do I need to have the interpretor on a "server"?
Thanks very much,
DS
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 21:40:47 GMT
From: Daniel Yacob <dmulholl@cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Perl XS Performance Q.
Message-Id: <7dos0t$ur8$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Greetings All,
This one goes out to the XS experts but I would actually be interested in a
general answer as it applies to interfacing with any language and not
specifically Perl.
I have an XS interface to a shared library and had to create a number of new
routines to work with the library nicely. I assume performance improves if
those routines are relocated into the primary library (and out of the .so ).
I don't have a CS background so I can't sensibly justify this assumption to
myself and would be grateful for more educated opinions here.
thanks!
/Daniel
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 21:44:53 GMT
From: 75474.133@compuserve.com (Ray)
Subject: pro's & con's of *.db databases?
Message-Id: <36fff23e.410246601@nntp.ix.netcom.com>
Hello,
Yes, I've read the FAQ's, or at least all the ones I could find.
Can anyone briefly describe the simple pros/cons of using *.db files
for databases, especially when compared to delimited text files. I'm
new to Perl and the only database formats I understand thus far are
delimited text files and linking *.db files to %arrays. I love the
simple, straightforward access to data, but I can't help but wonder
what secret limitations lurk below the surface.
I've yet to see a word written about them here. I would be
particularly interested in file size limitations, risks of multiple
simultaneous accesses (if that's even possible), etc.
Many thanks.
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 00:31:35 +0200
From: Frank de Bot <debot@xs4all.nl>
Subject: Problem...
Message-Id: <36FFFF46.4EEAACA8@xs4all.nl>
I've started to build my own searchengine.
I have this Keyword: "Perl"
I have this string to look for matches: "Free Perl scripts, Get your
Perl Scripts here" .
Perl exist 2 times in that string. How can I make the script that it
count the number of "Perl" (in this case). This should be 2. How can I
do that automatic?
Thanks,
--
My Email : debot@xs4all.nl
Homepages : - http://www.debot.nl/ppi/
- More coming up....
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Date: 29 Mar 1999 20:26:01 -0000
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: PWS, Win95, CGI and Perl
Message-Id: <7donkp$t4$1@gellyfish.btinternet.com>
On 29 Mar 1999 14:22:06 GMT Robzenuk wrote:
>
> .pl => c:\perl\bin\perl.exe
> .plx => c:\perl\bin\perlIS.dll
>
> Initially, this made no difference. After a reboot the browser just went out
> to lunch waiting for the response. This happened with both GET and POST.
>
If this is what you entered exactly then yes it will wait for ever as it
waits to read the script from STDIN. You need two %s tokens to specify the
script (I'm not quite sure why two :)
> I have been using Perl successfully for quite a while. I'm new to using and
> posting to the newsgroups and wonder if I'm not posting to the right place. Is
> there somewhere else that may be more appropriate for this kind of post (and/or
> research)?
>
comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows
> I already found a link in another posting to
> http://www.btinternet.com/~gellyfish/docs/map.html
> This contains a lot of detailed information on all the PWS registry entries.
>
Well it is actually a part of the online documentation for IIS3 - there is
no distributed documentation for PWS as such.
But this aint really the place to discuss such matters.
> I'm hoping someone has a cookbook for this or I'm just missing something really
> obvious...
>
You really will get more help in a more suitable newsgroup.
/J\
--
Jonathan Stowe <jns@gellyfish.com>
Some of your questions answered:
<URL:http://www.btinternet.com/~gellyfish/resources/wwwfaq.htm>
Hastings: <URL:http://www.newhoo.com/Regional/UK/England/East_Sussex/Hastings>
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 22:01:42 GMT
From: 75474.133@compuserve.com (Ray)
Subject: reading from/writing to Usenet w/ Perl
Message-Id: <36fff59e.411110884@nntp.ix.netcom.com>
Hello again,
Yes, I've searched the FAQ's, but have not found what I'm specifically
looking for.
I want to learn (in as simple terms as possible) how to:
1. collect a list of headers from a particular usenet group
2. download the bodies for selected headers
3. post to a particular group
What I specifically DO NOT WANT is a ready-to-use module -- I want to
build the application by myself (partly as a learning tool). I have
read through the code of several modules from CPAN, but I'm too new at
reading others' code to recognize exactly which portions of the code
are accomplishing which tasks. What I'm looking for is the snippets of
code that actually *do* the posting and retrieval. In other words,
once I have:
$nntpservername
$newsgroup
$messageheader
.... where do I go from there?
If anyone knows of a good, beginner-level reference on this subject, I
would be most grateful to know where to find it.
-r
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 15:02:51 -0500
From: Jesse Nover <jesse.n@home.com>
Subject: Sendmail won't close
Message-Id: <36FFDC6B.D23EED55@home.com>
Has anyone had a problem sending mail with perl through sendmail? The
script simply opens sendmail and prints to the mail stream, but it fails
to succefully close sendmail.
Please help.
Jesse Nover <jesse.nover@bmge.com>
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 00:34:51 +0200
From: Frank de Bot <debot@xs4all.nl>
Subject: Re: Sendmail won't close
Message-Id: <3700000A.70AD979B@xs4all.nl>
I've never got that problem. Did you do it this way?
open (MAIL, "mail") # Ofcourse, here must be the right arguments to call
the program.
print MAIL "to: your@email.com";
print MAIL "from: my@ddress.net";
print MAIL "subject: Hi......";
print MAIL "\n\n";
print MAIL "The Message's body";
close (MAIL); # Maybe you forgot this...
Jesse Nover wrote:
> Has anyone had a problem sending mail with perl through sendmail? The
> script simply opens sendmail and prints to the mail stream, but it fails
> to succefully close sendmail.
>
> Please help.
>
> Jesse Nover <jesse.nover@bmge.com>
--
My Email : debot@xs4all.nl
Homepages : - http://www.debot.nl/ppi/
- More coming up....
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 17:08:14 -0500
From: "Jeffrey D. Silverman" <jeff@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu>
Subject: TEST - Please help
Message-Id: <Pine.SO4.4.02.9903251704380.19596-100000@emme>
i have had trouble lately posting to newsgroups, so this is a TEST.
Please be kind and help me by replying to me via email if you can read this=
=2E
Please indicate which newsgroup you are replying from.
Thanks!
| |\ /\ =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=F8=A4=
=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4
| | | \ Jeffrey D. Silverman * jeff@jhmi.edu
\/ |/ \/ Johns Hopkins University * Baltimore, MD
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Date: 29 Mar 1999 19:53:31 -0000
From: Hugh_Dunne@nospam.com
Subject: Re: Why do we like Perl?
Message-Id: <36ffda3b@nospam.com>
In article <36FE8182.379E0B35@computer.org>, Kartik Subbarao <subbarao@computer.org> wrote:
[...]
> One of the angles I want to explore on this is personality theory. Back
> before "The Cathedral and the Bazaar", Eric Raymond maintained the
> Jargon file, where he noted the following about the personality
> characteristics of hackers:
>
> ``In terms of Myers-Briggs and equivalent psychometric systems,
> hackerdom appears to concentrate the relatively rare INTJ and INTP
> types; that is, introverted, intuitive, and thinker types...ENT[JP]
> types are also concentrated among hackers but are in a minority.''
>
> An interesting observation, which I think I can expand on. I've got some
> preliminary ideas on how Perl might be a particularly natural fit for
> some personality types.
I'm not too familiar with personality models, but I think it definitely takes
a certain type of personality to be good at perl and enjoy using it. I am not
a newby, I have been programming for 15+ years and I have never met a more
bizarre and frustrating language than perl. I am constantly being tripped up
by booby traps, and finding that the simplest script fails to work because I
didn't know I had to use some obscure piece of black magic which is nowhere
explained in the books. It is a constant struggle to get perl to do what I want.
Something that I could whip up in a few minutes in tcl/tk, and have work right
the first time, is a major ordeal in perl. It seems that so much of the
language is deliberately made obscure because it appeals to a certain rather
geeky sense of humor. Plus the attitude of many of the regulars in this group
is very "fundagelical" - anyone who doesn't accept that perl is the one true
language is a heretic, and you should never use anything other than perl
regardless of the application. Well I'm sorry but I don't want to live next to
a nuclear power station controlled by perl...
Hugh Dunne, Chandler, The Arid Zone
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 22:59:45 +0000
From: Dermot Musgrove <dermot.musgrove@virgin.net>
Subject: Re: Why do we like Perl?
Message-Id: <370005E1.3354B68B@virgin.net>
Kartik Subbarao wrote:
>
> I'd like to get some input from fellow Perl fans on this question.
>
> Having worked with Perl for about 9 years or so, I find that it
> continues to be a trusty sidekick, helping me with many programming
> tasks. It's more than kept pace as my programming abilities have
> improved and my interests have changed, with new features and a wealth
> of modules. After all this time, I still find myself learning ever
> cooler ways to do things in Perl on a regular basis, a true testament to
> its versatility.
>
> But of course, not everyone sees things the way I do. Which prompts the
> question I'd like to pose to the community. Why exactly do the fans
> among us like Perl? What are the aspects of it that appeal to us in
> particularly compelling ways?
>
Hi, I don't know my personality type, and I don't want to, but I just
love
perl because it _usually_ does what I want it to do. Those other times
are
frustrating but it is the first language that I have used (among many)
that
seems to understand what I want. Perhaps I am just sad but it is still a
joy to use it.
Also, thanks to all those people who have added to the language.
Regards, Dermot
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 19:53:22 GMT
From: mclaughlinj@leaders.ccl.org
Subject: Re: WIN32::SERVICES::GETSTATUS
Message-Id: <7dolnd$ol8$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Okay, I'll answer my own question in case someone else asks. I was using
Server manager to get the listing of the services. This of course gives you
the display name. The exchange service is really "MSExchangeSA". Use the
Get Services routine to list the service names. Also, you can search this
group for the code.
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