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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 99 15:00:20 -0800
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Today's topics:
'chmod 755 xxx.pl' <battles@flash.net>
Re: 'chmod 755 xxx.pl' <horizon@internetexpress.com.au>
Re: appending to beginning of file <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
Re: Array question. (Larry Rosler)
Can I have some help plese? <cmccomas@marshall.edu>
Re: cgi and forms mmueller007@hotmail.com
Dummy setup problem <battles@flash.net>
Re: Dummy setup problem (Alastair)
FAQ 2.14: What mailing lists are there for perl? <perlfaq-suggestions@perl.com>
Mail Upload <mfuerlinger@treffer.com>
need place to start judson@nettaxi.com
Newbie Perl for NT question <mike_begeman@theprairie.com>
Re: Newbie Perl for NT question (Alastair)
Re: Nonscalar Array Access? (Mark-Jason Dominus)
Re: OLE automation inside bat file run by NT at command <kprice@cardinal.co.nz>
open() sing Perl for Win32 mmueller007@hotmail.com
Re: open() sing Perl for Win32 <dtbaker@bus-prod.com>
Re: open() sing Perl for Win32 <dtbaker@bus-prod.com>
Re: problem with CGI::append() on win95??? (Andre L.)
Re: problem with CGI::append() on win95??? (Andre L.)
Re: problem with CGI::append() on win95??? <dtbaker@bus-prod.com>
Re: searching filenames (Steve Grantz)
suid <root@light.lightlink.com>
Re: use strict & packages (Damian Conway)
Special: Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 12 Dec 98 (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)
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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 21:09:48 GMT
From: John <battles@flash.net>
Subject: 'chmod 755 xxx.pl'
Message-Id: <36E296B9.4AC3@flash.net>
I am at a complete loss as to how to do this:
I have been told to change the permission of a xxx.pl module that I have
placed in my cgi-bin with this..
chmod 755 xxx.pl
which sets the script as executable, otherwise the instructions say that
I am going to get server errors all day long, which is what is
happening.
Could someone explain exactly how I go about executing this
instruction/technique? - Thanks.
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Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 08:29:39 +1100
From: Mick <horizon@internetexpress.com.au>
Subject: Re: 'chmod 755 xxx.pl'
Message-Id: <36E2EFC3.BCAD1226@internetexpress.com.au>
from the command prompt (In UNIX)
bash$ chmod 755 myscript.pl
or
bash$ chmod a+x myscipt.pl
Side Note...do you have something like this as you first line?
#!/usr/bin/perl
If not, you will also get internal server errors.
Mick
John wrote:
> I am at a complete loss as to how to do this:
>
> I have been told to change the permission of a xxx.pl module that I have
> placed in my cgi-bin with this..
>
> chmod 755 xxx.pl
>
> which sets the script as executable, otherwise the instructions say that
> I am going to get server errors all day long, which is what is
> happening.
> Could someone explain exactly how I go about executing this
> instruction/technique? - Thanks.
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Date: 7 Mar 1999 12:13:56 -0700
From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
Subject: Re: appending to beginning of file
Message-Id: <36e2cff4@csnews>
[courtesy cc of this posting sent to cited author via email]
In comp.lang.perl.misc,
mag@imchat.com (Mark P.) writes:
: I wish I didn't have to consider NT when programming but it is
:a fact of life nowadays. <G>
Only for those who choose there own torture. You mess in your bed,
and now you have to sleep in it. Sucks, I know.
But you don't have to submit to this woeful indigity! Go not quietly
down into the dark depths of the Hell That Bill Built.
Get yourself some *Perl Power*Tools*! Get them while they're hot!
http://language.perl.com/ppt/
--tom
--
If I had only known, I would have been a locksmith. --Albert Einstein
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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 13:24:47 -0800
From: lr@hpl.hp.com (Larry Rosler)
Subject: Re: Array question.
Message-Id: <MPG.114353f53c6558fe9896b4@nntp.hpl.hp.com>
[Posted and a courtesy copy mailed.]
In article <1dnxz1s.1sbf9p218x926gN@bay1-187.quincy.ziplink.net>, on
Sun, 28 Feb 1999 15:27:07 -0500 rjk@linguist.dartmouth.edu says...
...
> #!perl -w
> @ary = (1,2);
> undef @ary;
> print scalar @ary, " [@ary]\n";
> __END__
> 0 []
>
> No warnings.
That is true, and similarly for a hash. No definition, or even
declaration (without "use strict 'vars';"), is necessary. But using an
undefined or uninitialized scalar does give warnings.
This seems weird and scary, to me. Why is it so?
--
Larry Rosler
Hewlett-Packard Company
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Larry_Rosler/
lr@hpl.hp.com
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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 14:04:36 -0800
From: Christopher McComas <cmccomas@marshall.edu>
Subject: Can I have some help plese?
Message-Id: <36E2F7F4.1F375086@marshall.edu>
To all:
I am from the US and run a computer/math ratings system for sports
leagues. Currently I use what is called my power index and that can be
tabualted easily without a code/module, but now I am adding to my
ratings in general and adding what is called Ratings Percentage Index.
To calculate this I must have either a C++ code, perl source code, or an
excel module. I was curious if there was anyway possible that I give
you the general
idea of what I want and you write a code for me. On the downside, my
ratings are non-profit and I do not think I would be able to pay you in
cash for your work. Just let me know what you think. If interested
please email me at cmccomas@marshall.edu
Thank You
Christopher McComas
President, McComas Power Index
cmccomas@marshall.edu
http://webpages.marshall.edu/~cmccomas/
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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 21:49:18 GMT
From: mmueller007@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: cgi and forms
Message-Id: <7bus8r$jf0$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
In article <7bttbh$r9q$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
jaspo@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am using forms in html and a perl cgi script. however, on the web server,
> when I hit submit, the cgi script code shows up in the browser window? any
> ideas!!!
> thanks
> jas
>
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>
You are probably using the following:
<form method="get" ...
instead use
<form method="post" ...
That should take care of it.
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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 19:15:35 GMT
From: John <battles@flash.net>
Subject: Dummy setup problem
Message-Id: <36E27BBA.5F82@flash.net>
(I'm the dummy.)
I am trying to setup the following perl scripe into a web page:
#! /usr/bin/perl
# logger.cgi
# version 1.0
#
# Copyright Rod Clark rclark@aa.net
# Create a file called main.log. Must have write permissions
# set to main.log
$mainlog = "main.log";
$shortdate = `date +"%D %T %Z"`;
chop ($shortdate);
print "Content-type: text/plain\n\n ";
open (MAINLOG, ">>$mainlog");
print MAINLOG "Time: $shortdate\n";
print MAINLOG "User: $ENV{'REMOTE_IDENT'}\n";
print MAINLOG "Host: $ENV{'REMOTE_HOST'}\n";
print MAINLOG "Addr: $ENV{'REMOTE_ADDR'}\n";
print MAINLOG "With: $ENV{'HTTP_USER_AGENT'}\n";
print MAINLOG "Page: $ENV{'DOCUMENT_URI'}\n";
print MAINLOG "From: $ENV{'HTTP_REFERER'}\n\n";
close (MAINLOG);
exit;
I tried placing main.log and the logger.cgi files into out sites
cgi-bin. I keep getting the message:
[an error occurred while processing this directive]
proving to me that I don't quite know what I am doing. The instructions
say to have 'write permissions set to main.log'. Could this be the
problem and how is this done? I also tried to changed the
'#! /usr/bin/perl' statement to '#! /bin/perl' because that is where it
looks to be on my web host. Any help appreciated.
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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 22:18:17 GMT
From: alastair@calliope.demon.co.uk (Alastair)
Subject: Re: Dummy setup problem
Message-Id: <slrn7e5use.5h.alastair@calliope.demon.co.uk>
John <battles@flash.net> wrote:
>#! /usr/bin/perl
Why not add a '-w'?
>open (MAINLOG, ">>$mainlog");
Did that 'open' work?
HTH.
--
Alastair
work : alastair@psoft.co.uk
home : alastair@calliope.demon.co.uk
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Date: 7 Mar 1999 13:42:29 -0700
From: Tom Christiansen <perlfaq-suggestions@perl.com>
Subject: FAQ 2.14: What mailing lists are there for perl?
Message-Id: <36e2e4b5@csnews>
(This excerpt from perlfaq2 - Obtaining and Learning about Perl
($Revision: 1.30 $, $Date: 1998/12/29 19:43:32 $)
part of the standard set of documentation included with every
valid Perl distribution, like the one on your system.
See also http://language.perl.com/newdocs/pod/perlfaq2.html
if your negligent system adminstrator has been remiss in his duties.)
What mailing lists are there for perl?
Most of the major modules (tk, CGI, libwww-perl) have their own
mailing lists. Consult the documentation that came with the
module for subscription information. The Perl Institute attempts
to maintain a list of mailing lists at:
http://www.perl.org/maillist.html
--
X-Windows: The defacto substandard.
--Jamie Zawinski
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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 21:51:23 +0100
From: Mathias Fuerlinger <mfuerlinger@treffer.com>
Subject: Mail Upload
Message-Id: <36E2E6CB.BD0B00D@treffer.com>
Hi Everybody.
I'm looking for any help about a perl script which stores -
to a email attached files - in a indexed database.
Where can I find a similar script or any hints about uploading files via
email.
Thanks for any help
Mathias Fuerlinger, Stuttgart Germany
mfuerlinger@treffer.com
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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 22:20:04 GMT
From: judson@nettaxi.com
Subject: need place to start
Message-Id: <36e2fca1.18436586@news.flash.net>
i was wondering if anybody had any suggestions about where to start
learning perl. please reply to judson@nettaxi.com
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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 15:33:32 -0500
From: "Mike Begeman" <mike_begeman@theprairie.com>
Subject: Newbie Perl for NT question
Message-Id: <36e2e889.0@news.glasscity.net>
I installed Perl on our NT server (IIS3). When I click on link in IE or
Netscape that is supposed to run a perl script, it brings up the dialog for
downloading the file (testperl.pl). Is there something I have to do to IIS3
to get it to run the script?
Mike Begeman
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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 22:16:18 GMT
From: alastair@calliope.demon.co.uk (Alastair)
Subject: Re: Newbie Perl for NT question
Message-Id: <slrn7e5uor.5h.alastair@calliope.demon.co.uk>
Mike Begeman <mike_begeman@theprairie.com> wrote:
>I installed Perl on our NT server (IIS3). When I click on link in IE or
>Netscape that is supposed to run a perl script, it brings up the dialog for
>downloading the file (testperl.pl). Is there something I have to do to IIS3
>to get it to run the script?
Probably. I suspect it's a web server config issue and you'd be better asking in
an IIS newsgroup. Good luck.
--
Alastair
work : alastair@psoft.co.uk
home : alastair@calliope.demon.co.uk
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Date: 7 Mar 1999 19:32:01 GMT
From: mjd@plover.com (Mark-Jason Dominus)
Subject: Re: Nonscalar Array Access?
Message-Id: <7buk7h$9f0$1@picasso.op.net>
In article <36E11B8C.25D5C728@technologist.com>,
>Anyone out there have info/comments on this?
The problem with using @ar[3] when you really mean $ar[3] is that it
works fine 95% of the time and then kicks you in the knees when you're
not looking. As you pointed out,
print @ar[3];
is exactly the same as
print $ar[3];
But some day you might do something like this:
print "Enter your favorite number: ";
@ar[3] = <STDIN>
intending to read a single line of input from the user, and you'll
find that the program handgs forever. Why? @ar[3] provides an array
context to <STDIN>, and <...> in array context means to read not one
line but *all* the remaining lines of input. The first of these lines
is assigned to $ar[3], and the others are discarded.
A similar, related problem: You might be used to writing something
like this:
@boys = ('Cain', 'Abel', 'Seth');
$number_of_elements = @boys;
# $number_of_elements is now 3
to get the length of an array. Let's try to store the length of one
array into an element of another array:
@boys = ('Cain', 'Abel', 'Seth');
$ar[3] = @boys;
# $ar[3] is now 3
If you use the array slice, however, you get a surprise:
@boys = ('Cain', 'Abel', 'Seth');
@ar[3] = @boys;
# $ar[3] is now 'Cain'
Ooops.
This is why we warn people away from writing @ar[3].
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Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 08:57:16 +1300
From: Kelvin Price <kprice@cardinal.co.nz>
Subject: Re: OLE automation inside bat file run by NT at command
Message-Id: <36E2DA1C.E1F4B968@cardinal.co.nz>
gdmiller@wave.home.com wrote:
>
> I have written an OLE automation script for Word 97 using Avtivestate PERL .
> At the command line everything runs fine but if I run the batch file as an at
> job the perl script cannot open Word. The following line is how I start word.
>
> my $ex = Win32::OLE->new('Word.Application', 'Quit') or die "Oops, cannot
> start Word\n";
>
> When run in the at job the script returns the error message from the die
> statement.
>
> My question is. Can you run OLE automation scripts as an at job. Is there
> something special I have to do to get it to work? The script runs fine on the
> commadn line so I know it works.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated
>
> Dale Miller
If it works fine when you are logged in, but not when run from AT.EXE
the problem is most likely permission related. Jobs run from AT.EXE are
executed from the Scheduler service which normally runs under the SYSTEM
user code. A job run from the command prompt will run under the logged
in user code.
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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 21:25:31 GMT
From: mmueller007@hotmail.com
Subject: open() sing Perl for Win32
Message-Id: <7buqs4$ifo$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
I'm working on a little cgi-program (I'm using Perl for Win32) that is
supposed to open a file, but there seems to be a problem with the
open-command:
open($PRICE_FILE, "<sys2.txt");
while (<$PRICE_FILE>) {
chop;
($item, $price) = split(/:/,$_,2) ;
$price_list{$item} = $price ;
}
I wonder if it has to do with the txt-file location or what?!? Right now,
"sys2.txt" sits in the same directory as the cgi-script itself. I have tried
ALL kinds of combinations with this, but it is getting rather frustrating.
Any help on getting this to work is appreciated.
Thanks,
Marcus
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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 16:30:49 -0600
From: Dan Baker <dtbaker@bus-prod.com>
To: mmueller007@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: open() sing Perl for Win32
Message-Id: <36E2FE19.E26855BE@bus-prod.com>
mmueller007@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> I'm working on a little cgi-program (I'm using Perl for Win32) that is
> supposed to open a file, but there seems to be a problem with the
> open-command:
>
> open($PRICE_FILE, "<sys2.txt");
> while (<$PRICE_FILE>) {
--------------
your syntax for the filehandle is wrong...
$PRICE_FILE should be PRICE_FILE
D
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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 16:31:13 -0600
From: Dan Baker <dtbaker@bus-prod.com>
Subject: Re: open() sing Perl for Win32
Message-Id: <36E2FE31.4C9863F1@bus-prod.com>
mmueller007@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> I'm working on a little cgi-program (I'm using Perl for Win32) that is
> supposed to open a file, but there seems to be a problem with the
> open-command:
>
> open($PRICE_FILE, "<sys2.txt");
> while (<$PRICE_FILE>) {
--------------
your syntax for the filehandle is wrong...
$PRICE_FILE should be PRICE_FILE
D
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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 15:34:54 -0500
From: alecler@cam.org (Andre L.)
Subject: Re: problem with CGI::append() on win95???
Message-Id: <alecler-0703991534540001@dialup-718.hip.cam.org>
In article <36E287FD.38C1F581@bus-prod.com>, Dan Baker
<dtbaker@bus-prod.com> wrote:
> [...] I am running standard perl5 on win95. Please post if you can spot whats
> wrong....
[...]
> append(-name=>;'VarName',-values=>['word1','word2','word3']) ;
[...]
Two things are happening here.
Firstly, there is a semi-colon that doesn't belong there, before 'VarName'.
Secondly, remember that "values" is a keyword in Perl, so -w warns you
that the use of the bareword -values is ambiguous, because it is not
quoted. Either quote it or simply use -value without an "s", which works
fine.
append(-name=>'VarName','-values'=>['word1','word2','word3']);
or
append(-name=>'VarName',-value=>['word1','word2','word3']);
These will make the warning go away.
HTH,
Andre
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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 16:03:21 -0500
From: alecler@cam.org (Andre L.)
Subject: Re: problem with CGI::append() on win95???
Message-Id: <alecler-0703991603210001@dialup-718.hip.cam.org>
In article <alecler-0703991534540001@dialup-718.hip.cam.org>,
alecler@cam.org (Andre L.) wrote:
> append(-name=>'VarName','-values'=>['word1','word2','word3']);
> or
> append(-name=>'VarName',-value=>['word1','word2','word3']);
Oh! One important point I forgot to mention. If you're using the
procedural interface to CGI.pm, you may have to specify the default CGI
object when calling append(), like so:
$CGI::Q->append( ... );
Andre
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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 16:25:06 -0600
From: Dan Baker <dtbaker@bus-prod.com>
Subject: Re: problem with CGI::append() on win95???
Message-Id: <36E2FCC2.6D3DCD3C@bus-prod.com>
Rick Delaney wrote:
>
> Dan Baker wrote:
> >
> > > > append(-name=>;'VarName',-values=>['word1','word2','word3']) ;
> >
> > well, I've tried it lots of different ways... this is how it is
> > documented.
>
> Did you try removing the extraneous semi-colon? Your documentation has
> a typo. You should learn some basic Perl syntax before jumping in and
> using fancy modules. And remember that Perl modules must still conform
> to basic Perl syntax.
----------------------------
Well, I DO know basic Perl syntax, and I thought the docs looked weird.
I've tried it as documented as well as other forms without success:
append(-name=>'VarName',-values=>['word1','word2','word3']) ;
append(-name=>'VarName',-value=>['word1','word2','word3']) ;
CGI::append(-name=>'VarName',-values=>['word1','word2','word3']) ;
rather than make assumptions about my level of expertise, please show
the syntax that works, and what platform you tested on. Since the docs
seem to be wrong, I need an example that works as well as knowing what
platform it works on so I can determine if the win95 port I have is at
fault.
Dan
# If you would like to reply-to directly, remove the - from my username
* no spam please... regulated by US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B) *
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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 21:09:26 GMT
From: sgrantz@visi.com (Steve Grantz)
Subject: Re: searching filenames
Message-Id: <aWBE2.310$to3.12133@ptah.visi.com>
Sheila Eugenio (seugenio@man.amis.com) wrote:
: I am planning to create a script that will search a directory of filenames
: through a 4-field form. The filenames are named this way:
: FT19990405.txt where FT,QC,RM,RL=area
: 1999=year
: 04=week
: 05=report#
:
: How can I make a comparison in such a way that when a user fails to fill up
: one or more fields, it will look for all possible combinations? I have the
: ff codes:
[snip]
: if ($search=~/$new/) {
First off, you want $new =~ /$search/; for the pattern match.
Then you should change the way you build the $search regex.
By combining chunks like
.{4}
with the populated input, you should get what you want.
But from your code, it isn't clear how you receive your input.
--
More of Steve Grantz's Blather at 2 * McQ != McQ
http://www.visi.com/~sgrantz 0.5 * McQ == McQ
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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 17:32:30 -0500
From: Homer Wilson Smith <root@light.lightlink.com>
To: Max Parke <mhp@light.lightlink.com>
Subject: suid
Message-Id: <Pine.SUN.3.96.990307165732.4851A-100000@light.lightlink.com>
Running Linux 2.0.35
Max,
Consider
proggy.c
proggy* which is set uid root chmod 4710
proggy.pl
proggy.c calls proggy.pl and is compiled into proggy*
Proggy.pl contains the usual lines necessary for secure
running of suid scripts. It also contains.
system ("cp file1 file2");
This works fine. However
system ("id && cp file1 file2");
system ("id ; cp file1 file2");
fail to do the copy with permission denied and the id shows that it is
not running setuid root.
system ("cp file1 file2 2>&1")
also fails with permission denied.
Why?
Both work fine under SunOS 4.1.4.
I need to be able to catch the error output of the system command,
like so:
$data = `cp file1 file2 2>&1`;
print "$data";
But this fails just as the above system calls fail.
I also need to be able to do simple compound shell statements
system ("cd /home/user && whatever");
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks Homer
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Date: 7 Mar 1999 19:27:52 GMT
From: damian@cs.monash.edu.au (Damian Conway)
Subject: Re: use strict & packages
Message-Id: <7bujvo$hqa$1@towncrier.cc.monash.edu.au>
Rick Delaney <rick.delaney@home.com> writes:
>mizpoon@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>>
>> Does the order that you define packages and lexically scoped variables
>> affect the perl namespaces?
>>
>> Ie.
>> is 'use strict;package test;'
>> any different to 'package test;use strict;'
>If they are consecutive like that then there is no difference.
>Does that help? What are you really asking?
I suspect the question may really be: is a 'use strict' scoped to the
package in which it's specified. The answer to that question is:
"No, use strict affects everything from the point of declaration until
the end of the *block* (not package) in which it's declared".
So, whilst there's no difference between:
use strict; package test;
and
package test; use strict;
there definitely is a difference between:
use strict;
package test;
{
# strict code here
}
# strict code here too
and
package test;
{
use strict;
# strict code here
}
# non-strict code here
# (unless there was an earlier use strict in this outer scope)
Damian
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