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Thu Jan 14 06:03:16 1999
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 99 03:00:18 -0800
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Perl-Users Digest Thu, 14 Jan 1999 Volume: 8 Number: 4648
Today's topics:
Re: Can I execute Perl Scipt from VB ? (Bart Lateur)
Re: CONCLUSIVE PROOF: Jesus *is* King of the Jews ! <cygnet@cncnet.com>
Re: determine, if file is directory (Bart Lateur)
Re: Diff by character? (Erland Sommarskog)
Re: max. length of perl regexp (Tad McClellan)
Re: max. length of perl regexp (Ilya Zakharevich)
mkdir with specified owner or group <r2-d2@REMOVEbigfoot.com>
Re: NEED SCRIPT BAD!!!!!! (Derk Voss)
Perl + odbc.pm <bruce.d@btinternet.com>
perl cgi <arogers@rational.com>
Re: Perl Criticism topmind@technologist.com
Re: Perl Criticism topmind@technologist.com
Re: Perl Criticism topmind@technologist.com
Re: Perl Criticism topmind@technologist.com
Re: Perl Criticism topmind@technologist.com
Re: Perl Criticism topmind@technologist.com
Re: Perl Criticism (Bart Lateur)
problem with use strict and use FileCache (Chris Fedde)
Re: read/write same file (Larry Rosler)
Re: read/write same file <angelo@acsoft.dk>
Re: Running Perl scripts for Macs (Bart Lateur)
Re: Threads Solaris memory leak ? signals handling? ruxfounder@my-dejanews.com
warning errors jschueler@detroit.usweb.com
Which Perl reference book? bnelissen@hotmail.com
Re: Which Perl reference book? <uri@home.sysarch.com>
Re: Year 2038 problem (I R A Aggie)
Special: Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 12 Dec 98 (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:17:08 GMT
From: bart.lateur@skynet.be (Bart Lateur)
Subject: Re: Can I execute Perl Scipt from VB ?
Message-Id: <369ea301.857818@news.skynet.be>
Barry G. Sumpter wrote:
>Thanks for that - but how do I get Perl to return
>an error code thru the Shell command?
Er... no. VB's Shell is an asynchronous launch, so it returns before the
Perl program has finished. Therefore, Perl's exit codes are meaningless.
Synchronizing, i.e. waiting for the Perl script to finish, can be done
with a few VB+API instructions. I currently don't have the details
handy... But you should easily find it with Dejanews in the VB
newsgroup.
You could redirect output, including STDERR, to a file, so that you can
read the "die" messages in the VB program.
Bart.
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:12:40 -0800
From: "sam Taylor" <cygnet@cncnet.com>
Subject: Re: CONCLUSIVE PROOF: Jesus *is* King of the Jews ! ! !
Message-Id: <369db51b$0$185@nntp.quiknet.com>
de KO6JQ,
the best thing Christians can pray for, is a little
balance in the lives of those whom think that they
nust preach in every newsgroup or every 5 killocycles on the HF bands
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:18:15 GMT
From: bart.lateur@skynet.be (Bart Lateur)
Subject: Re: determine, if file is directory
Message-Id: <369fa7f5.2125927@news.skynet.be>
Patrick Clauberg wrote:
>A Perl Book tells me: if (-d $filename) { ....
>
>should work.
It does. But $filename must be a full path, or just the filename in the
current directory. readdir() returns just the filename. Prepend the
directory path, and it should work.
HTH,
Bart.
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Date: 14 Jan 1999 09:17:45 GMT
From: sommar@algonet.se (Erland Sommarskog)
Subject: Re: Diff by character?
Message-Id: <77kcnp$olg$1@cubacola.tninet.se>
Bernie Schneider (berniegs@prodigy.net) writes
>============================================================
>It generates the following output:
>
>Now is the time for all good men to .
>Not is the dime for all goo men to ...
> * * * **
But what if we have
Now is the time for all good men to .
Now are the time for all good men to .
Your little Perl routine star-marked everything from "are" and on,
and I needed something which resyncs. (Which I found, se my other
article.)
--
Erland Sommarskog, Stockholm, sommar@algonet.se
A camel is a trotting horse that has been constructed by a committee.
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:57:07 -0600
From: tadmc@metronet.com (Tad McClellan)
Subject: Re: max. length of perl regexp
Message-Id: <3g4k77.l28.ln@magna.metronet.com>
s_jagadish@yahoo.com wrote:
: is there a limit on the max. length of a regexp ?
The BUGS section of the top level perl man page (perl.pod)
says there is.
: if so what is it ?
"A regular expression may not compile to more than 32767
bytes internally."
To predict if your regex is too big, you need to be able to
compile to the same machine (as in finite state machine)
that perl compiles to.
That's probably Not So Easy...
--
Tad McClellan SGML Consulting
tadmc@metronet.com Perl programming
Fort Worth, Texas
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Date: 14 Jan 1999 09:51:01 GMT
From: ilya@math.ohio-state.edu (Ilya Zakharevich)
Subject: Re: max. length of perl regexp
Message-Id: <77kem5$4da$1@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
[A complimentary Cc of this posting was sent to Tad McClellan
<tadmc@metronet.com>],
who wrote in article <3g4k77.l28.ln@magna.metronet.com>:
> s_jagadish@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> : is there a limit on the max. length of a regexp ?
>
>
> The BUGS section of the top level perl man page (perl.pod)
> says there is.
>
>
> : if so what is it ?
>
>
> "A regular expression may not compile to more than 32767
> bytes internally."
No such limit with contemporary perls (starting from 5.004_56 or somesuch).
Ilya
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:11:24 -0000
From: "Artoo" <r2-d2@REMOVEbigfoot.com>
Subject: mkdir with specified owner or group
Message-Id: <77kfvs$33h$1@plug.news.pipex.net>
Hi All
Is it possible to mkdir and specify an owner or group for that dir while
making it, rather than chown after it's creation. I need to mkdir in a dir
with chmod 775 but I can't just "mkdir (dirname, 0755)" because it isn't
world writable, it must be run as owner (or group) to allow the dir to be
created?
Any help would be most appreciated,
Thanks
Artoo
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Date: 13 Jan 1999 23:46:34 -0800
From: derk@sonic.net (Derk Voss)
Subject: Re: NEED SCRIPT BAD!!!!!!
Message-Id: <77k7cq$4oe@bolt.sonic.net>
Tad McClellan (tadmc@metronet.com) wrote:
: open(OUT, ">$filename_that_i_can_choose.txt") ||
open(pleeeeeeaaaassssseeeee, ">$filename_that_i_can_choose.txt") ||
Desperate times call for desperate filehandles ;-)
Derk
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:42:23 -0000
From: "Bruce Davidson" <bruce.d@btinternet.com>
Subject: Perl + odbc.pm
Message-Id: <77kheg$hnn$1@plutonium.btinternet.com>
I'm looking for some practical examples of perl using w32 odbc sql commands.
Any pointers welcome.
Thanks
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:04:19 -0800
From: Alan Rogers <arogers@rational.com>
Subject: perl cgi
Message-Id: <369E2393.93442C03@rational.com>
Hi,
I am just getting started with the web and perl cgi can anybody
recommend any books on the subject.
Kinds Regards
Alan Rogers
arogers@rational.com
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 06:53:53 GMT
From: topmind@technologist.com
Subject: Re: Perl Criticism
Message-Id: <77k49v$b5s$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
In article <slrn79lkif.mtj.dformosa@godzilla.zeta.org.au>,
dformosa@zeta.org.au (David Formosa (aka ? the Platypus)) wrote:
> In article <77e6rq$lth$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, topmind@technologist.com wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> >It is my opinion that most of the academic types who write
> >those papers do very little typical, real world work.
>
> Often they do real world work in some field that your just not falimure with.
>
Well then, that makes me better qualified to talk about a field that
I am familiar with and visa versa. Perhaps for what they do their
research is more valid. The problem is when they extrapolate.
> [...]
>
> >All knowledge is good, but I still say that the Psycology
> >(phonetic: "sykologee") aspect of language design is
> >98% of where the problem is.
>
> Rather then psycology wouldn't lingistics be a better field, I mean
> they study the way people comminicate.
They study people-to-people communication, not people-to-machine
communication. They may be a fish out of water there.
>
> --
> Please excuse my spelling as I suffer from agraphia. See
> http://www.zeta.org.au/~dformosa/Spelling.html to find out more.
> How to win arguments on usenet http://www.zeta.org.au/~dformosa/usenet.html
>
>
-tmind-
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 06:49:00 GMT
From: topmind@technologist.com
Subject: Re: Perl Criticism
Message-Id: <77k40r$b2l$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
In article <slrn79limj.mtj.dformosa@godzilla.zeta.org.au>,
dformosa@zeta.org.au (David Formosa (aka ? the Platypus)) wrote:
> In article <77e6ae$ldp$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, topmind@technologist.com wrote:
> >In article <3698f854.191578@news.skynet.be>,
> > bart.lateur@skynet.be (Bart Lateur) wrote:
> [...]
>
> >> Anyway, that's how *I* found Perl, Python and TCL, more than 5 years
> >> ago. They weren't the "hot items" then. Funny how my preferences of that
> >> time eventually made it into popularity...
> >>
> >> Bart.
> >>
> >
> >You should have bought stocks intead, then you would not
> >need ANY language :-)
>
> You can buy stockes in perl?
I meant use your alleged gift at prediction to make
money picking the winners (growth markets) in general.
-tmind-
>
> --
> Please excuse my spelling as I suffer from agraphia. See
> http://www.zeta.org.au/~dformosa/Spelling.html to find out more.
> How to win arguments on usenet http://www.zeta.org.au/~dformosa/usenet.html
>
>
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:02:59 GMT
From: topmind@technologist.com
Subject: Re: Perl Criticism
Message-Id: <77k4r0$bk9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
In article <369AB88D.D24769A@mediaone.net>,
"Michael D. Schleif" <mds-resource@mediaone.net> wrote:
>
> topmind@technologist.com wrote:
> >
> > Very? It is about a 15% increase is characters. How does that
> > qualify as "Very"?
>
> Well, if you are going to orbit the moon and your trajectory is off by
> 15%, then you are *very* lost.
>
> If you write a check for 15% more than you have funds, then you are
> *very* broke and probably *very* much in trouble.
>
Your examples are of doubtful applicability to our discussion.
You are talking about trigger or threashold events.
> Of course, if you argue for brevity, then use your own example that
> increases by 15% that for which you preach brevity, then that might be
> *very* trivial ;)
I am not sure what you are getting at. My function example was
actually less keystrokes because there are one or less spaces
around the commas. Further, some languages do not need
parens around "void" function calls.
>
> --
>
> Best Regards,
>
> mds
[...]
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 06:57:02 GMT
From: topmind@technologist.com
Subject: Re: Perl Criticism
Message-Id: <77k4fr$b93$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
In article <369AB73A.2C48D41B@mediaone.net>,
"Michael D. Schleif" <mds-resource@mediaone.net> wrote:
> topmind@technologist.com wrote:
> >
> > It is my opinion that most of the academic types who write
> > those papers do very little typical, real world work.
>
> Please, might we take a tiny peak at any of your ``real world work?''
What do you have in mind? Source code? CGI? I have a web discussion
forum that I built using Perl, but I am afraid that if I point
everyone there, they will muck it up with insults, etc. Perhaps
I can make a "fiddle copy" somewhere. I will see what I can do.
-tmind-
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>
> --
>
> Best Regards,
>
> mds
> mds resource
> 888.250.3987
>
> "Dare to fix things before they break . . . "
>
> "Our capacity for understanding is inversely proportional to how much we
> think we know. The more I know, the more I know I don't know . . . "
>
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:14:43 GMT
From: topmind@technologist.com
Subject: Re: Perl Criticism
Message-Id: <77k5gu$c3o$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
In article <3697F5C0.7E30F36E@gatewest.net>,
Andrew Johnson <ajohnson@gatewest.net> wrote:
> topmind@technologist.com wrote:
> !
> [snip]
>
> ! You have to consider the WHOLE environment of a language,
> ! NOT just its POTENTIAL under ideal conditions.
> ! The world is full of idiots and con-artists. Languages
> ! should take that into consideration.
>
> Whatever makes you think it is the responsibility of language
> designers to take idiots into consideration??? Think about it for a
> minute --- Go ahead, design a language for idiots ... who do you
> think will be using it?
>
If factoring in idiots makes the language more useful to
business, then why not?
Is the issue over whether there are enough idiots to
justify factoring them in, or whether to pretend like
they don't exist?
A very interesting philosophical discussion.
That is why language design is more art and psychology
than science. Perhaps even politics in the mix.
(No sex I hope. Stack overflows would be painful.)
> regards
> andrew
>
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:06:30 GMT
From: topmind@technologist.com
Subject: Re: Perl Criticism
Message-Id: <77k51i$bng$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
In article <369AB8E7.D6A9F7A5@mediaone.net>,
"Michael D. Schleif" <mds-resource@mediaone.net> wrote:
> topmind@technologist.com wrote:
> >
> > You call it what you want, and I will call it what I want.
>
> And, folks, that pretty much summarizes this entire thread }:-^
No, only those anal about language (english). The more
practical of us here are concentrating on wether
saving keystrokes or maintainability is
more important.
>
> --
>
> Best Regards,
>
> mds
[...]
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:16:59 GMT
From: bart.lateur@skynet.be (Bart Lateur)
Subject: Re: Perl Criticism
Message-Id: <369d964b.529037@news.skynet.be>
Sean McAfee wrote:
>>> topmind@technologist.com wrote:
>>> > > >@_(-->$/(.)/up/Your*$s\\|>you&%!$@#crypt=++||#@tol<>>??logists!@#
>
>>> > > Thats not valid perl.
>
>>> > But I bet it is only a few keystrokes away from being runnable.
>> "@_(-->$/(.)/up/Your*$s\\|>you&%!$@#crypt=++||#@tol<>>??logists!@#";
>>is runnable.
>
>Not quite:
>Using single quotes makes it runnable, though.
That doesn't count. It doesn't do anything useful. It's just a string.
That would make it "runnable" (or almost) in most languages, including
VB.
Bart.
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Date: 14 Jan 1999 01:12:38 -0700
From: cfedde@cfedde.corp.infobeat.com (Chris Fedde)
Subject: problem with use strict and use FileCache
Message-Id: <77k8tm$sf$1@cfedde.corp.infobeat.com>
The program below generates the following error on my system:
Can't use string ("sender08.lodo.in.infobeat.com") as a symbol
ref while "strict refs" in use at u line 13.
Is there a way to "use FileCache" and "use strict" at the same time?
thanks
chris
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
#
#
use strict;
use FileCache;
while(<DATA>){
my ($fname, $now, $fill, $drain) = split;
cacheout $fname;
printf $fname "%d\t%f\t%f\n",
$now, $fill, $drain;
}
__END__
sender08.lodo.in.infobeat.com 916297260 0.000000 3.000000
sender05.lodo.in.infobeat.com 916297260 739.000000 425.000000
sender03.lodo.in.infobeat.com 916297260 0.000000 0.000000
sender02.lodo.in.infobeat.com 916297260 0.000000 0.000000
sender06.lodo.in.infobeat.com 916297260 293.000000 771.000000
build3.lodo.in.merc.com 916297260 0.000000 0.000000
sender10.lodo.in.infobeat.com 916297260 0.000000 1.000000
sender11.lodo.in.infobeat.com 916297260 0.000000 0.000000
sender07.lodo.in.infobeat.com 916297260 980.000000 309.000000
sender00.lodo.in.infobeat.com 916297260 0.000000 59.000000
sender04.lodo.in.infobeat.com 916297260 0.000000 5.000000
build1.lodo.in.merc.com 916297260 0.000000 0.000000
build2.lodo.in.merc.com 916297380 0.000000 0.000000
sender08.lodo.in.infobeat.com 916297320 1000.000000 697.000000
sender05.lodo.in.infobeat.com 916297320 0.000000 535.000000
sender03.lodo.in.infobeat.com 916297320 0.000000 0.000000
sender02.lodo.in.infobeat.com 916297320 0.000000 0.000000
sender06.lodo.in.infobeat.com 916297320 0.000000 207.000000
build3.lodo.in.merc.com 916297320 0.000000 0.000000
sender10.lodo.in.infobeat.com 916297320 0.000000 2.000000
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:14:51 -0800
From: lr@hpl.hp.com (Larry Rosler)
Subject: Re: read/write same file
Message-Id: <MPG.110755691377171989988@nntp.hpl.hp.com>
In article <369CBE34.D1ABFC75@mail.utexas.edu>, dropzone@mail.utexas.edu
says...
> I want to read a log and update it with a switch if it contains a certain
> $filename. I can do this fine if I write to a different file than I'm reading,
> but if I try to write back to the old one, it wipes it out.
Look in perlfaq5: "How do I change one line in a file/delete a line in a
file/insert a line in the middle of a file/append to the beginning of a
file?"
You will find that your approach is sound, except for the rename to
complete the operation. You will also find that it can be done in a
single command.
--
(Just Another Larry) Rosler
Hewlett-Packard Company
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Larry_Rosler/
lr@hpl.hp.com
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:25:18 +0100
From: Steen Angelo <angelo@acsoft.dk>
Subject: Re: read/write same file
Message-Id: <369DC60E.F60B1475@acsoft.dk>
Where do I find perlfaq5:
Larry Rosler wrote:
> Look in perlfaq5: "How do I change one line in a file/delete a line in a
> file/insert a line in the middle of a file/append to the beginning of a
> file?"
--
Best regards
Steen Angelo
mailto:angelo@acsoft.dk
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:17:03 GMT
From: bart.lateur@skynet.be (Bart Lateur)
Subject: Re: Running Perl scripts for Macs
Message-Id: <369da17e.471091@news.skynet.be>
Jason Gadde wrote:
>Does anyone know that if a script is able to run in a Windows
>environment, can it also be run in a Mac environment? Is there any major
>differences (ie. with Regular Expressions, special characters,
>functions) in the actual scripts itself.
No. Unless you use platform specific libraries (OLE on Win32, for
example).
The only thing you must be wary of is to convert line-ends from DOS to
Mac or vice versa when tranferring scripts. BBEdit can do that. So can a
tiny Perl script.
All other legal characters in code are plain Ascii, therefore, the same
for PC and Mac.
Bart.
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:06:20 GMT
From: ruxfounder@my-dejanews.com
Subject: Re: Threads Solaris memory leak ? signals handling?
Message-Id: <77k51a$bne$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
In article <36a5c92e.3195439402@news.ford.com>,
cpierce1@mail.ford.com (Clinton Pierce) wrote:
> [Courtesy CC sent to poster in E-Mail]
> I believe...and someone shoot me if I'm wrong...that Apache gets around
> library memory leaks, etc.. by re-forking and exec'ing its children
> every now and then.
Yes, i'm sure they do it.
>
> So every now and then, clean up your messes, and just re-exec()
Ok, it's very simple and clear solution, but I'm worry about process
memory. If my proxy have got 80 Mb (virtual) process memory and
do exec() call, then what process memory will be for the new process?
Also, I'm worry about my threads that probably will be serving
some requests while i call exec()....
But I will try to refresh my proxy with re-exec itself.
> yourself. I think you'll have problems for socket connections waiting
> on the que to connect to your port, and you might have other problems
> (REUSEADDR is your friend), but this will work around your memory leak
As I mentioned even simple sleep(1) call will couse a memory leak, why ???
> if you can't find it otherwise.
>
>
Thanks,
-Dima.
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:48:28 GMT
From: jschueler@detroit.usweb.com
Subject: warning errors
Message-Id: <77kehb$k44$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
on perl 5.004:
Here's my snippet of code:
sub warntest {
my $handle = shift ;
defined $handle or return undef ;
while (<$handle>) {
## etc
}
return "" ;
}
This function must accept the (hard to reference) perl file-handle type, not a
blessed FileHandle object.
when I perform perl -cw on the file containing this subroutine, I get the
following error:
Value of <HANDLE> construct can be "0"; test with defined() at display.pm
line 6 65535.
What must I do to clear this up?
Jim Schueler
USWebCKS Corporation
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:20:01 GMT
From: bnelissen@hotmail.com
Subject: Which Perl reference book?
Message-Id: <77k5qr$cer$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Hi,
I recently started learning Perl, and bought "Learning Perl (2nd edition).
However, I'd like to buy also a reference book and would like to know which
one is best:
Programming Perl (2nd Edition)
The Perl Cookbook
Has anybody compared these two?
Thanks in advance.
Bart
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Date: 14 Jan 1999 02:58:20 -0500
From: Uri Guttman <uri@home.sysarch.com>
Subject: Re: Which Perl reference book?
Message-Id: <x7emoyguar.fsf@home.sysarch.com>
>>>>> "b" == bnelissen <bnelissen@hotmail.com> writes:
b> Programming Perl (2nd Edition)
b> The Perl Cookbook
b> Has anybody compared these two?
they are not comparable.
PP (blue camel, camel 2) is the main reference book about perl. it
should not be used as the utimate reference since it is already out of
date. use the online documentation for the most accurate info. but the
camel is still a very valuable book which covers the entire language,
core modules and other issues.
TPC (the ram) is a book of how-to recipes. it is not a reference in any
normal sense. you probably couldn't learn the language from it (unless
you were very fluent in computer languages). it is also invaluable as it
show many methods and recipes in perl useful to solve common programming
problems.
so do the right thing and get both.
hth,
uri
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:42:04 -0500
From: fl_aggie@thepentagon.com (I R A Aggie)
Subject: Re: Year 2038 problem
Message-Id: <fl_aggie-1201991742040001@aggie.coaps.fsu.edu>
In article <369BC8DD.2E0368CF@cisco.com>, bvitro@cisco.com wrote:
+ Guess that means I can't figure out what my options will be worth in
+ 2039...
+
+ <sigh> The Miracle Of Modern Technology
Do you _really_ have to use seconds from 1 Jan 1970 to keep track of the
date you retire in 2039?
James - Really, Really Big Hint: probably not
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Date: 12 Dec 98 21:33:47 GMT (Last modified)
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