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Wed Dec 30 23:07:12 1998

Date: Wed, 30 Dec 98 20:00:17 -0800
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Perl-Users Digest           Wed, 30 Dec 1998     Volume: 8 Number: 4522

Today's topics:
        *DBM? what are they? <jjpark@home.com>
        Absolute Yuck <elssa09@erase.callisto.si.usherb.ca>
    Re: Absolute Yuck (Sam Holden)
    Re: An interesesting? problem.... <dgris@moiraine.dimensional.com>
    Re: An interesesting? problem.... (Jim Matzdorff)
    Re: Flock not working Can't figure out why! <jdf@pobox.com>
        Help with Binary file transfer in perl, please? <ptomsic@pop.pitt.edu>
    Re: LinkExtor <debot@xs4all.nl>
        Newbie Using Active for WIN32 <makr44@dial.pipex.com>
    Re: Newbie Using Active for WIN32 david@meakins.lan.mcgill.ca
        Perl Install on NT <adams@enteract.com>
    Re: Perl on NT - How to run as a daemon process lonstein@bigfoot.com
        PerlCRT.dll needed on remote machine? <a-danc@microsoft.com>
    Re: PerlCRT.dll needed on remote machine? <gmj@netaxis.com>
    Re: Please help will generating biased random numbers. <mkahn@vbe.com>
        Question: Socket with perl/tk? <choihn@cig.mot.com>
    Re: reading a single char <jdf@pobox.com>
    Re: reading a single char <mkahn@vbe.com>
    Re: reading a single char (Clay Irving)
    Re: reading a single char (Tad McClellan)
    Re: Retrospective on comp.lang.perl.moderated? <dgris@moiraine.dimensional.com>
    Re: Retrospective on comp.lang.perl.moderated? (Leslie Mikesell)
    Re: Sig Trap Help Needed !! (Alastair)
    Re: Time tracking system with database backend <nobody@asdfasdf.org>
        Special: Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 12 Dec 98 (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)

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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:18:53 GMT
From: Justin <jjpark@home.com>
Subject: *DBM? what are they?
Message-Id: <368AC34C.49A529B0@home.com>

i've seen GDBM, SDBM, ODBM. how are they different? how do you use them?


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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 21:28:34 -0500
From: JTJ <elssa09@erase.callisto.si.usherb.ca>
Subject: Absolute Yuck
Message-Id: <368AE152.5F89@erase.callisto.si.usherb.ca>

This is silly ... I can do this, can't I?

--------------------------------------------------------------------
&ReadParse;
		open(HTMLFILE,"<$datafile");
		@inputData=<HTMLFILE>;
		close(HTMLFILE);
$1 = @inputData;
$1 =~ s/[TypeOfCard]/$in{'TypeOfCard'}/go;
--------------------------------------------------------------------

I get this error message:
Modification of a read-only value attempted at postcard.pl line 23.

23:		$1 = @inputData;

I want to substitute the text "[TypeOfCard]" for what I input from html

Thanks in advance ... it's screen stare and lack of a manual ... :-)

JT-J


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Date: 31 Dec 1998 03:18:48 GMT
From: sholden@pgrad.cs.usyd.edu.au (Sam Holden)
Subject: Re: Absolute Yuck
Message-Id: <slrn78lr8o.a3c.sholden@pgrad.cs.usyd.edu.au>

On Wed, 30 Dec 1998 21:28:34 -0500, JTJ <elssa09@erase.callisto.si.usherb.ca>
	wrote:
>This is silly ... I can do this, can't I?
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>&ReadParse;
>		open(HTMLFILE,"<$datafile");
>		@inputData=<HTMLFILE>;
>		close(HTMLFILE);
>$1 = @inputData;
>$1 =~ s/[TypeOfCard]/$in{'TypeOfCard'}/go;
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>I get this error message:
>Modification of a read-only value attempted at postcard.pl line 23.
>
>23:		$1 = @inputData;
>
>I want to substitute the text "[TypeOfCard]" for what I input from html
>
>Thanks in advance ... it's screen stare and lack of a manual ... :-)

If you can run a perl script you can look at the manual. Try perldoc...

You can't assign to $1 since it is a read only variable which has a special
meaning to perl. Use a different variable name. Anyway doing say
$fred = @inputData will set $fred to the number of elements in @inputData
which is not want you want. You could use join to make one big string or
you could loop over the array which would be less memory intensive...

Also [ is special in a regex and your regex replaces all occurances of any 
of the letters T, y, p, e, O, f, C, a, r, d with the value of
$in{'TypeOfCard'}, which I'm sure you don't want to do really.

You also don't do error checking on your open which is bad.

Try learning some perl and it should be a little easier....

s/\[TypeOfCard\]/$in{'TypeOfCard'}/go for (@inputData);

might be what you are looking for...

-- 
Sam

 "... the whole documentation is not unreasonably transportable in a
 student's briefcase." - John Lions describing UNIX 6th Edition
 "This has since been fixed in recent versions." - Kernighan & Pike


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Date: 30 Dec 1998 17:10:18 -0700
From: Daniel Grisinger <dgris@moiraine.dimensional.com>
Subject: Re: An interesesting? problem....
Message-Id: <m3ww39jhn9.fsf@moiraine.dimensional.com>

"Samuel Kilchenmann" <skilchen@swissonline.ch> writes:

> is it true, that "map" called in a void/scalar context does not build the
> result list?

No.

dgris
-- 
Daniel Grisinger          dgris@moiraine.dimensional.com
perl -Mre=eval -e'$_=shift;;@[=split//;;$,=qq;\n;;;print 
m;(.{$-}(?{$-++}));,q;;while$-<=@[;;' 'Just Another Perl Hacker'


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Date: 30 Dec 1998 17:03:32 -0800
From: syran@best.com (Jim Matzdorff)
Subject: Re: An interesesting? problem....
Message-Id: <76eih4$8jp$1@shell18.ba.best.com>

I just wanted to thank everyone for the response (don't want to make it
seem I'm ungrateful!).  The best thing that came out this (besides the
answer I was looking for) was the ability to see many different ways of
doing the same thing (well, they were mostly the same, but you get the
picture).  I learned alot (i hope).

Sorry about the 72-length problem, I hadn't configured vi yet...

Happy New Years, everyone.  Thanks again!

Until the next question.... 
--jim


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Date: 31 Dec 1998 00:16:58 +0100
From: Jonathan Feinberg <jdf@pobox.com>
To: Mike <support@counter.w-dt.com>
Subject: Re: Flock not working Can't figure out why!
Message-Id: <m3iuetfcet.fsf@joshua.panix.com>

Mike <support@counter.w-dt.com> writes:

> My flock isn't working in my program. It appears to work, doesn't
> give any errors or anything

> flock($handle,2);

How could it possibly "give any errors" if you're not asking it for
them?

  flock($handle, LOCK_EX) || die "Can't lock: $!\n";

-- 
Jonathan Feinberg   jdf@pobox.com   Sunny Brooklyn, NY
http://pobox.com/~jdf


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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:30:00 -0500
From: "Paul Tomsic" <ptomsic@pop.pitt.edu>
Subject: Help with Binary file transfer in perl, please?
Message-Id: <76ed6d$cuu$1@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu>

I wrote a c++ program that allows documents to be uploaded via a browser,
and I'm surfing today, and there's something in Perl that does this already,
CGI.pm and CGI-LIB.pl
Anyway, I snag them, write up a quickie program that *should* work, and it
appears to work fine w/ text files, and images (bmp's, gif's, etc) but won't
work w/ DOC or XLS files.
The part of the code that handles the document transfer is listed below.
What's happening is the file IS indeed transferring, and it's showing up w/
the exact same size, and file attributes, but if I open the file in WORD,
then
it gives me an error, "Make sure you've named the file *.doc"  or some other
crap error.
When I WinDiff the files, ie. the one from my local machine versus the one
that was newly transferred, WinDiff says the files are the Exactly the same
except for Spacing differences....
Anyone w/ any knowledge or insite into this, I would greatly appreciate some
assistance...
the other notable oddity is when I try to open the transferred file from the
Server in IE4.01, it tries to download it first, before going to the
'in-place automation' feature that it does w/ other Office files that are
opened in the browser.

---code snip----
  undef $BytesRead;
  undef $Buffer;

  open(OUTFILE,">>$newfile");
  binmode(OUTFILE);
        while ($Bytes = read($File_Handle,$Buffer,1024)) {
   $BytesRead += $Bytes;
            print OUTFILE $Buffer;
        }

  push(@Files_Written, "$TARGET_DIR\/$Filename");
  $TOTAL_BYTES += $BytesRead;
  $Confirmation{$File_Handle} = $BytesRead;

        close($File_Handle);
  close(OUTFILE);

---end  snip----


I'd be glad to offer the whole source if someone thinks it's necessary..
Thanks again for any assistance...

---Paul Tomsic
--UPMC Health System
tomsicpj@msx.upmc.edu





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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 01:03:24 +0100
From: Frank de Bot <debot@xs4all.nl>
Subject: Re: LinkExtor
Message-Id: <368ABF4B.BF1EA6C3@xs4all.nl>

Never mind. I've made my own script without library to get links out of
a document (and one to verify them one by one)



Frank de Bot wrote:

> Can someone give me a simple example how to use: HTML::LinkExtor  ?



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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:23:10 +0000
From: Andrew Burns <makr44@dial.pipex.com>
Subject: Newbie Using Active for WIN32
Message-Id: <368AC3EE.4FA1542E@dial.pipex.com>

Hi,

I've just got my mitts on ActivePerl for WIN32. It seems to be installed
okay, and I can do the 'Hello world' programs okay, but what I would
like to do is set up a system such that I can test programs for
interpreting data submitted by web page forms, also local to my machine.
This is on win95.

The success I've had is limited. I seem to have convinced my browser to
open the file, and it even runs it, but without using any of the data
that it should be passed, and it fails to return that data to the
browser.

I'm presuming that I need some sort of program to act as a web server.
Is that correct? Does anyone have any advice on how to get one, or where
I might find out more? Or is there something else wrong?

Andy


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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 01:45:28 GMT
From: david@meakins.lan.mcgill.ca
Subject: Re: Newbie Using Active for WIN32
Message-Id: <FGAi2.1645$hG.3498@weber.videotron.net>

In article <368AC3EE.4FA1542E@dial.pipex.com>, Andrew Burns <makr44@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>...
>
>I'm presuming that I need some sort of program to act as a web server.
>Is that correct? Does anyone have any advice on how to get one, or where
>I might find out more? Or is there something else wrong?
>
>Andy

Try Xitami at www.imatrix.com

David Eidelman


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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 21:55:38 -0600
From: "Al and Linda Adams" <adams@enteract.com>
Subject: Perl Install on NT
Message-Id: <76esni$7ki$1@eve.enteract.com>

Has anyone ever installed Perl from Windowsa NT Resource kit for
workstations?   What is needed as far as any compilers, and so on.  I would
appreciate help.

Thanks,

Al Adams




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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:13:29 GMT
From: lonstein@bigfoot.com
Subject: Re: Perl on NT - How to run as a daemon process
Message-Id: <Jkzi2.599$lG.5381@news14.ispnews.com>

The Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:50:37 -0500, Adrian G. Klingel <klingela@nt.com> wrote:
 AGK>Happy Holidays to all of you,
 AGK>
 AGK>  I've written a program which checks for the existence of a file, and
 AGK>if it finds the file, that file is loaded into an Oracle database. 
 	[snip]
 AGK>task which occurs on startup and runs in the background?  I know I could
 AGK>run the command from a batch file and add that to the Startup program
 AGK>group, but that runs in the foreground with the DOS window, which anyone
 AGK>playing around on the server can close.  Please help if you can.

Use the SRVANY tool from the NT 4.0 Server Resource Kit. The documentation
is adequate to get you up and running in fifteen minutes. I've tried
several minor scripts using this technique and they launch as expected.
One checks a POP3 mailbox every ten minutes so it should be possible to
do what you describe.

Ross


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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:44:33 -0800
From: "Daniel Chua" <a-danc@microsoft.com>
Subject: PerlCRT.dll needed on remote machine?
Message-Id: <76eobc$t8b@news.dns.microsoft.com>

Hello.  I'm just learning Perl and encountered this.  Hopefully someone here
can help.

I installed ActivePerl on a machine #1 and a Perl program I ran works fine.
But when I run the same program on machine #2 by accessing Perl\bin\perl on
machine #1, it complains about not finding PerlCRT.dll.  The program works
after installing PerlCRT.dll.

Question:  Is there a way of getting around not installing PerlCRT.dll on
the remote machine?

Thanks,
Dan




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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 02:57:55 +0000
From: "Geir Magnusson Jr." <gmj@netaxis.com>
Subject: Re: PerlCRT.dll needed on remote machine?
Message-Id: <368AE833.A66DE73D@netaxis.com>

Daniel Chua wrote:
> 
> Hello.  I'm just learning Perl and encountered this.  Hopefully someone here
> can help.
> 
> I installed ActivePerl on a machine #1 and a Perl program I ran works fine.
> But when I run the same program on machine #2 by accessing Perl\bin\perl on
> machine #1, it complains about not finding PerlCRT.dll.  The program works
> after installing PerlCRT.dll.
> 
> Question:  Is there a way of getting around not installing PerlCRT.dll on
> the remote machine?
>

As a flying leap of a guess, you could always put the location of perl
and the perlcrt.dll into your path on machine #2, assuming that you are
sharing a drive from machine #1.  Of course, don't include
c:\winnt\system32 or c:\windows\system32 from machine #1 in the path of
machine #2.  It will most likely lead to hilarious but evil
consequences.

Caveat #1: I havent't tried this myself.  To limit aggravation with Mr.
Bill's OS, I just put the perl tree (c:\perl\...) on any machine I want
it to run on, adjust the path, punch the appropos stuff into HKCR (.pl &
such), and everything is easy.

Caveat #2: I am not using the ActivePerl distribution, but rather one
built from the regular source distribution.

[cc a-danc@microsoft.com]

geir

-- 
Geir Magnusson Jr.
gmj@netaxis.com
Perl's garbage collector abhors a naked circularity. -tc
Chase the dream, not the competition.


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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 17:42:51 -0600
From: Mark Kahn <mkahn@vbe.com>
Subject: Re: Please help will generating biased random numbers.
Message-Id: <368ABA7B.2CFC856F@vbe.com>

You're right, John.  I should have stated that it's only weighted (heavily) in
respect to a range of 1 to 10.  Bad example.
-- 
~ M. Kahn  <mkahn@vbe.com>

"The software required `Windows 95 or better', so I installed Linux."
-- Tom Christiansen


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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:17:32 -0600
From: Heungmook Choi <choihn@cig.mot.com>
Subject: Question: Socket with perl/tk?
Message-Id: <368AC29C.11300CA3@cig.mot.com>

Hi all,

1. I am trying to make  client / server programs using perl/tk.
    The server is made using C++.
    The client will be made using perl/tk ( with GUI ).
     But I need a bi-directional socket between these client / server
programs.

2. The server C++ program will send a message at every 5 seconds to the
client.
    The client perl/tk program must receive this message and display on
its GUI canvas.

3. But, anytime, if one of buttons on the client GUI program (perl/tk)
is pushed, then
    the corresponding message must be sent to the server and the server
must receive this message.

4. So, I need a bidirectional socket with Non-blocking I/O.
    I don't have any idea how to resolve this.

Do you have any idea?
Please, I need some grue's help.

Heungmook Choi,
Motorola.






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Date: 31 Dec 1998 00:21:23 +0100
From: Jonathan Feinberg <jdf@pobox.com>
To: tchrist@mox.perl.com (Tom Christiansen)
Subject: Re: reading a single char
Message-Id: <m3g19xfc7g.fsf@joshua.panix.com>

Tom Christiansen <tchrist@mox.perl.com> writes:

> --tom, the last reader on earth

I would respond to that outrageous assertion, but I don't know about
it, because I didn't read it.

-- 
Jonathan Feinberg   jdf@pobox.com   Sunny Brooklyn, NY
http://pobox.com/~jdf


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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 17:31:14 -0600
From: Mark Kahn <mkahn@vbe.com>
Subject: Re: reading a single char
Message-Id: <368AB7C2.2A4AF249@vbe.com>

C'mon, John, can't you "read" a little sarcasm into that reply ;) ?  He did
answer the question.  The point being that he's spent countless hours
documenting these types of questions; how'd you feel if you'd done the same
work, only to see (seemingly, at times) it ignored about 100 times a day?  No
right or wrong, but an understandable reply.
-- 
~ M. Kahn  <mkahn@vbe.com>

"No nation is permitted to live in ignorance with impunity." --Thomas
Jefferson


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Date: 30 Dec 1998 19:48:17 -0500
From: clay@panix.com (Clay Irving)
Subject: Re: reading a single char
Message-Id: <76ehkh$ci0@panix.com>

In <368AB7C2.2A4AF249@vbe.com> Mark Kahn <mkahn@vbe.com> writes:

>C'mon, John, can't you "read" a little sarcasm into that reply ;) ?  He did
>answer the question.  The point being that he's spent countless hours
>documenting these types of questions; how'd you feel if you'd done the same
>work, only to see (seemingly, at times) it ignored about 100 times a day?  No
>right or wrong, but an understandable reply.

Yeah, but how do you attach a file in Email with Perl? :)

-- 
Clay Irving
clay@panix.com


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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:55:02 -0600
From: tadmc@metronet.com (Tad McClellan)
Subject: Re: reading a single char
Message-Id: <61ie67.ht1.ln@magna.metronet.com>

Stephen Paul Miller (spmiller@csc.umd.edu) wrote:
: i am having trouble getting perl to read a single char and return control.

: any ideas?


   One idea might be to see your Frequently Asked Question in the
   Perl FAQ, part 5:

     "How can I read a single character from a file?  From the keyboard?"


   Or Perl FAQ, part 8:

     "How do I do fancy stuff with the keyboard/screen/mouse?"

     "How do I check whether input is ready on the keyboard?"


--
    Tad McClellan                          SGML Consulting
    tadmc@metronet.com                     Perl programming
    Fort Worth, Texas


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Date: 30 Dec 1998 17:00:00 -0700
From: Daniel Grisinger <dgris@moiraine.dimensional.com>
Subject: Re: Retrospective on comp.lang.perl.moderated?
Message-Id: <m31zlhkwov.fsf@moiraine.dimensional.com>

stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley) writes:

> In article <m367atl9j3.fsf@moiraine.dimensional.com>,
> Daniel Grisinger  <dgris@moiraine.dimensional.com> wrote:

> >Most lists
> >now require two separate e-mails to join, with only a limited window
> >of time in which the second e-mail will be considered valid.  

> None of the lists I subscribed to did this. None of the lists from
> which I receive spam (e.g. realmedia) does this. 0 out of 5 does not
> support your claim of "most".

The following lists require confirmation for subscription-

    All egcs lists          ( 6  lists )
    All perl.org lists      ( 30 lists )
    All debian.org lists    ( 67 lists )
    All redhat.com lists    ( 21 lists )
    All gnome.org lists     ( 12 lists )
    All xemacs.org lists    ( 8  lists )

143 out of 148 is certainly sufficient to claim most.
(Offsubject: the few lists that still don't require confirmation
 will change the next time somebody gets successfully mailbombed
 because of their laxness)

> Since most lists require just one email, yes, I'm sorry, it is harder to
> make the first posting to .moderated.

If most lists only required one mail this would be true.

> No, if you recall, the demand that people register came long before any
> method of registering a munged address was proposed. Registering was not
> proposed as a method of allowing people to use munged addresses, it was
> proposed as a way of preventing them from doing it. In case YOU don't
> recall, I was one of the vocal opponents to registering for precisely
> this reason.

This is correct, I was misrecalling the flow of conversation from
that time.

<snip non-compliant messages don't break standards-compliant software>
> software. But then, you've been told this before and hearing it again
> won't make any difference.

No, it won't make any difference.  People who don't bother to provide
standards compliant mail and news articles certainly aren't going to
change to do the right thing.

<snip me bitching and John responding in a quite restrained fashion>
> I'll point out, probably ineffectively, that you chose to word your
> argument in terms of "brain donors" and "idiocy". If you have a
> complaint about the tone the discussion is taking, look in the mirror.

Sorry, I was in a really pissy mood this morning, I could probably
have phrased myself better.  It doesn't change that registration and
address confirmation is a reasonable burden to bear for the privilege
of posting to clpmod.

dgris
-- 
Daniel Grisinger          dgris@moiraine.dimensional.com
perl -Mre=eval -e'$_=shift;;@[=split//;;$,=qq;\n;;;print 
m;(.{$-}(?{$-++}));,q;;while$-<=@[;;' 'Just Another Perl Hacker'


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Date: 30 Dec 1998 21:17:27 -0600
From: les@MCS.COM (Leslie Mikesell)
Subject: Re: Retrospective on comp.lang.perl.moderated?
Message-Id: <76eqc7$oq1$1@Jupiter.mcs.net>

In article <89fd67.lu4.ln@magna.metronet.com>,
Tad McClellan <tadmc@metronet.com> wrote:

>   Registration was the best way we could think of to reduce the
>   number of such postings while keeping the workload of the
>   moderator panel at a level that would encourage the membership 
>   of the panel to not be the empty set.
>
>   We anxiously await the better alternative that you have in mind. 
>
>   Please share it with us.

I thought the idea of a moderated list was to have an intelligent
decision made about whether an article was worth propagating or
not.  Given a choice between artificial intelligence and the
real thing, I've always preferred the latter.


  Les Mikesell
    les@mcs.com


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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:37:44 GMT
From: alastair@calliope.demon.co.uk (Alastair)
Subject: Re: Sig Trap Help Needed !!
Message-Id: <slrn78lhr3.22j.alastair@calliope.demon.co.uk>

johnvv@hotmail.com <johnvv@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Hi David,
>
>I have one question, when you said "should do the trick" did you test your
>solution?
>
>If so, what version of perl was it and what OS ??

This ;

#!/usr/bin/perl -w
use strict;

sub xit { print "goodbye\n" ; exit } ;
$SIG{INT} = \&xit;

while (<STDIN>) { print $_ }

#--------------------

worked for me.

calliope:~> perl -v

This is perl, version 5.004_04 built for i586-linux

HTH.

-- 

Alastair
work  : alastair@psoft.co.uk
home  : alastair@calliope.demon.co.uk


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Date: 30 Dec 1998 18:01:17 -0800
From: Peter Potter <nobody@asdfasdf.org>
Subject: Re: Time tracking system with database backend
Message-Id: <m3pv91134i.fsf@asdf.asdfasdf.org>

dhaley@infobeat.com (Damon K. Haley) writes:

> Hello,
> 
> I am trying to do some reasearch on opensource time-tracking 
> systems available for unix (Linux or Solaris).
> 
> The basic ideas is a solution that allows multiple users to 
> document the hours they work and what projects they work on.  
> 
> It must be web-based and have a database backend.  The database 
> doens't have to be relational but Oracle or MySql are preferred.

There's few "scheduling" things in these pages of Gary's Encyclopedia:

http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/pim.html
http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/business.html

IIRC, at least one of them used a backend database, but I
don't recall any that mentioned "time-tracking".   I wouldn't
be suprised if they could be used for that, though.


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Date: 12 Dec 98 21:33:47 GMT (Last modified)
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Subject: Special: Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 12 Dec 98)
Message-Id: <null>


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