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Perl-Users Digest, Issue: 3909 Volume: 8

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Perl-Users Digest)
Tue Oct 6 19:07:31 1998

Date: Tue, 6 Oct 98 16:01:41 -0700
From: Perl-Users Digest <Perl-Users-Request@ruby.OCE.ORST.EDU>
To: Perl-Users@ruby.OCE.ORST.EDU (Perl-Users Digest)

Perl-Users Digest           Tue, 6 Oct 1998     Volume: 8 Number: 3909

Today's topics:
    Re: Perl warning  ?! <fredmill@jaws.greatwhite.com>
        Perl5-win32 5.005 crashing IIS Server <etedwood@usa.net>
    Re: Portugujs <eashton@bbnplanet.com>
    Re: Problem with Sender.pm and MIME::Base64 <Paul.Coleman@CoSeCo.com>
    Re: read subdirectories (Martien Verbruggen)
    Re: read subdirectories <merlyn@stonehenge.com>
    Re: regexp with variable substitution values <rootbeer@teleport.com>
    Re: regexp with variable substitution values <eashton@bbnplanet.com>
    Re: regexp with variable substitution values (Brand Hilton)
    Re: regexp with variable substitution values <Paul.Makepeace@POBox.com>
    Re: send geroge reese (was Re: Call for Participation:  <zenin@bawdycaste.org>
        Single stepping through remote member functions (e.g. T <smithr@lexma.meitech.com>
        SSL support for perl server? plambert$1@plambert.org
    Re: SSL support for perl server? <merlyn@stonehenge.com>
    Re: SSL support for perl server? <eashton@bbnplanet.com>
        still have open2 and open3 errors mwwenzel@my-dejanews.com
        Using open2() with Oracle svrmgrl <Bhasker.Ravikanti@CAS.Honeywell.Com>
    Re: What does $INPUT{'name'} =~ s/\s+$//; do?? (I'm a n <brettr@centuryinter.net>
    Re: What does $INPUT{'name'} =~ s/\s+$//; do?? (I'm a n <eashton@bbnplanet.com>
    Re: What does $INPUT{'name'} =~ s/\s+$//; do?? (I'm a n <r28629@email.sps.mot.com>
        What's is wrong here? <achoy@us.oracle.com>
        Special: Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 12 Mar 98 (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)

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Date: 5 Oct 1998 21:50:46 -0600
From: "Fred C. Miller" <fredmill@jaws.greatwhite.com>
Subject: Re: Perl warning  ?!
Message-Id: <6vc42m$fhf$1@salamander.localnet.taz>

This isn't a perl problem.  It's a linux problem.
You need to look into NLS and locales.
On my system, running Debian 2.0, the available locales are
under /usr/share/i18n/locales:

21:40:57 fredmill$ /bin/ls /usr/share/i18n/locales/
POSIX       en_DK.com   es_GT       fi_FI       hu_HU       pt_BR
cs_CZ       en_GB       es_HN       fo_FO       is_IS       pt_PT
da_DK       en_IE       es_MX       fr_BE       it_IT       ro_RO
de_AT       en_NZ       es_PA       fr_CA       iw_IL       ru_RU
de_BE       en_US       es_PE       fr_CA,2.13  ja_JP       sl_SI
de_CH       es_AR       es_PY       fr_CH       kl_GL       sv_FI
de_DE       es_BO       es_SV       fr_FR       lt_LT       sv_SE
de_LU       es_CL       es_US       fr_LU       lv_LV       tr_TR
en_AU       es_CO       es_UY       ga_IE       nl_BE       zh_CN
en_CA       es_DO       es_VE       gr_GR       nl_NL
en_CA,2.5   es_EC       et_EE       he_IL       no_NO
en_DK       es_ES       eu_ES       hr_HR       pl_PL


Sometimes, I set Spanish as my language of choice:

export LANG="es_MX"

>From the ".fr" in your e-mail address, I suggest you try:

export LANG="fr_FR"

You might want to put this in your profile.

hth
Ralf Meuser <ralf.meuser@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> When I try   perl -v
> I get the follwing message:

> perl:  warning: setting local failed.
> perl:  warning: Please check that your local settings:
>              LC_ALL = (unset),
>              LANG = "fr"
>     are supported and installed on your system.
> perl:  warning:  Falling back to the standard local ("C").

> This is perl, version 5.004_04 built for i386-linux

> I don't know what is wrong or missing.
> Can somebody help me

> Ralf Meuser
> ralf.meuser@tk-transports.fr




-- 
fred


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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 17:10:39 -0400
From: "ted" <etedwood@usa.net>
Subject: Perl5-win32 5.005 crashing IIS Server
Message-Id: <6ve111$8d2@nexus.amp.com>

Server (IIS3) will stop executing .pl files while still processing .asp's
and .html.  Stopping web service and restarting it does not correct the
problem.  Only a reboot solves this one. (Veerrrrryyy frustrating!).  When
this issues shows it's ugly head, there are no runaway Perl.exe processes
showing in pviewer so I'm pretty much stumped.  would a regression to an
older build (516?) be worthwhile to try, or even an upgrade to IIS4
(planned).

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Ted Wood
etedwood@usa.net




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Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 21:43:49 GMT
From: Elaine -HappyFunBall- Ashton <eashton@bbnplanet.com>
Subject: Re: Portugujs
Message-Id: <361A8C9C.1A5671A5@bbnplanet.com>

Commitman wrote:

> Quem fala portugujs por aqui, favor dar um reply nesta mensagem, ss pra
> gente saber !!! Obrigado !

Only the Bossa Nova. :) One doesn't need to speak it to feel and
understand it. 

e.

A saudade aumenta com a distbncia
E a ilusco i feita de esperanga
Foi a noite
Foi o mar eu sei
Foi vocj		- Jobim -


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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 17:45:24 -0400
From: "-Paul Coleman" <Paul.Coleman@CoSeCo.com>
Subject: Re: Problem with Sender.pm and MIME::Base64
Message-Id: <361a964c.0@news3.paonline.com>

Thanks
Gisle Aas wrote in message ...
>
>You need perl5.002 or better to support 'use vars'.  It looks like you
>have copied the vars.pm from some newer perl.  This does not work.
>
>Gisle Aas




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Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 22:02:46 GMT
From: mgjv@comdyn.com.au (Martien Verbruggen)
Subject: Re: read subdirectories
Message-Id: <aswS1.8$172.67773@nsw.nnrp.telstra.net>

In article <361A2996.F0E5DE67@min.net>,
	John Porter <jdporter@min.net> writes:
> Pete Ratzlaff wrote:
>> 
>> Here's one I wrote up in a hurry which recursively prints all
>> subdirectories of a given directory. Modify to suit your own needs:
> 
> I sure do wonder what people have against using standard, robust,
> portable modules like File::Find.

Maybe this:

# perldoc File::Find
[snip]
BUGS
     There is no way to make find or finddepth follow symlinks.
[snip]

Don't get me wrong: I am a fervent advocate of using modules,
especially when they have become part of the standard distribution.
But sometimes one needs a solution that works around a problem,
inadequacy or bug in the modules. That is when one rolls his/her own
code.

But indeed: the original poster probably does need File::Find, and not
the solution that you replied to (which has this bug as well, and more
serious ones).

Martien

-- 
Martien Verbruggen                  | 
Webmaster www.tradingpost.com.au    | You can't have everything, where would
Commercial Dynamics Pty. Ltd.       | you put it?
NSW, Australia                      | 


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Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 22:39:05 GMT
From: Randal Schwartz <merlyn@stonehenge.com>
Subject: Re: read subdirectories
Message-Id: <8cvhlxxqm1.fsf@gadget.cscaper.com>

>>>>> "Pete" == Pete Ratzlaff <rpete@ascda3.harvard.edu> writes:

Pete> Here's one I wrote up in a hurry which recursively prints all
Pete> subdirectories of a given directory. Modify to suit your own needs:

[...]

Pete> 		(-d $_) and do {

My modification would be to remove it and start over.
You are chasing symlinks.
Bad.
You can get into a loop that way and run forever.

Please stop reinventing the wheel.

Please STOP reinventing the wheel.

use File::Find.

File::Find is your friend.

-- 
Name: Randal L. Schwartz / Stonehenge Consulting Services (503)777-0095
Keywords: Perl training, UNIX[tm] consulting, video production, skiing, flying
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Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 22:10:07 GMT
From: Tom Phoenix <rootbeer@teleport.com>
Subject: Re: regexp with variable substitution values
Message-Id: <Pine.GSO.4.02A.9810061348160.4710-100000@user2.teleport.com>

On Tue, 6 Oct 1998 jcoffey@connectnet.com wrote:

> $string =~ s/subtag/$array[$i]/g;
> 
> # where $i is some sort of counter for the number of times matched.

Maybe you want something like this?

    $string =~ s/subtag/$array[$i++]/g;

Hope this helps!

-- 
Tom Phoenix       Perl Training and Hacking       Esperanto
Randal Schwartz Case:     http://www.rahul.net/jeffrey/ovs/



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Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 22:25:32 GMT
From: Elaine -HappyFunBall- Ashton <eashton@bbnplanet.com>
Subject: Re: regexp with variable substitution values
Message-Id: <361A9663.28AE0460@bbnplanet.com>

Tom Phoenix wrote:

> Hope this helps!

Welcome back Tom! The HTH is good to see again. :)
 
e.

Existiria a verdade 
 Verdade que ninguem ve 
  Se todos fossem no mundo iguais a voce  - Jobim -


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Date: 6 Oct 1998 22:39:40 GMT
From: bhilton@tsg.adc.com (Brand Hilton)
Subject: Re: regexp with variable substitution values
Message-Id: <6ve67c$7p19@mercury.adc.com>

In article <6vdt71$lm0$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,  <jcoffey@connectnet.com> wrote:
>I'm not sure if that title makes any sense, but it's the best I can think
>of...
>
>Anyway, I'm stumped on a problem, and was wondering if anybody had any ideas
>on this.  I've got a string that has multiple values I would like to append
>to, from an array of values.  Here's kind of the idea...
>
># this is stored in an array, because there will be a varying number of
>elements # to substitue into the string
>
>@array = ( "value1",
>	   "value2",
>	   "value3",
>	   "value4"
>	);
>
>$string =~ s/subtag/$array[$i]/g;
>
># where $i is some sort of counter for the number of times matched.
>
>First of all, does that make any sense?  Secondly, is it possible?  Thirdly,
>should I have read that regexp section in the Camel book more thoroughly?

Um... no, probably, and yes.  I'm sorry, I'm really trying to figure
out what you want here, and I'm completely failing.  

First off, the sentence, "I've got a string that has multiple values I
would like to append to, from an array of values," doesn't make sense
to me.  Did you leave out a word somewhere?

The code fragment makes sense.  It'll replace all occurrences of the
string "subtag" with whatever's in slot $i of @array, but the comment
right after that doesn't make much sense.  Where is $i getting set?
Are you expecting the s/// to somehow increment $i?

Try again.  I'd really like to help if I can.

-- 
 _____ 
|///  |   Brand Hilton  bhilton@adc.com
|  ADC|   ADC Telecommunications, ATM Transport Division
|_____|   Richardson, Texas


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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 22:07:43 +0100
From: "Paul Makepeace" <Paul.Makepeace@POBox.com>
Subject: Re: regexp with variable substitution values
Message-Id: <6ve6pg$6q0$1@statler.server.colt.net>


Tom Phoenix wrote in message ...
>On Tue, 6 Oct 1998 jcoffey@connectnet.com wrote:
>
>> $string =~ s/subtag/$array[$i]/g;
>>
>> # where $i is some sort of counter for the number of times matched.
>
>Maybe you want something like this?
>

>    $string =~ s/subtag/$array[$i++]/g;


$string =~ s/subtag/$array[$i++]/ge;    # NB /e !

 ...shurely?

(Anyway of doing it without $i or in some way that doesn't require declaring
a variable?)





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Date: 6 Oct 98 22:08:43 GMT
From: Zenin <zenin@bawdycaste.org>
Subject: Re: send geroge reese (was Re: Call for Participation: Python Conference)
Message-Id: <907711883.758669@thrush.omix.com>

Abigail <abigail@fnx.com> wrote:
: Zenin (zenin@bawdycaste.org) wrote on MDCCCLXII September MCMXCIII in
	>snip<
: ++ 	True, but it is here now.  As such, this should no longer be
: ++ 	considered an issue for new, large scale projects that need
: ++ 	inheritance.
:
: Large scale projects don't tend to start after the release of
: perl5.005. Some large scale project have started a year or longer ago.

	And I'm sure there are still projects stuck in K&R C, but that
	doesn't mean that ANSI C features should simply be thrown away.

	>snip<
: ++ 	IMHO, inheritance is highly overrated.  A uses relationship is
: ++ 	much more useful and reusable in most cases.  There never was field
: ++ 	name collision in a uses relationship.
:
: If you don't use inheritance, why bother with OO?

	Encapsulation, data abstraction, lower name collisions, etc.

-- 
-Zenin (zenin@archive.rhps.org)           From The Blue Camel we learn:
BSD:  A psychoactive drug, popular in the 80s, probably developed at UC
Berkeley or thereabouts.  Similar in many ways to the prescription-only
medication called "System V", but infinitely more useful. (Or, at least,
more fun.)  The full chemical name is "Berkeley Standard Distribution".


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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 17:21:26 -0400
From: "Ray Smith" <smithr@lexma.meitech.com>
Subject: Single stepping through remote member functions (e.g. Tk::Entry::insert)
Message-Id: <6ve1ij$hl6$1@client2.news.psi.net>

Hi, I'm at a loss as to how to proceed.
Background:
I started to evaluate the ActiveState Perl system, after using Gurusamy
Sarathy's binary distribution Perl for some time.
I installed ActiveState and then loaded the Tk module.  When I try to run a
script which has worked for some time I get the following error:
Goto undefined subroutine &Tk::Entry::insert
 at d:\ap502\site\5.00502\lib/Tk/Widget.pm line 318.

When I couldn't figure out why, I tried to test out the script execution in
the G.S. Perl using the debugger (perl -d).
My code:
 ...
 $entry->selection("range",0,"end");
 $entry->delete(0, "end");
 $entry->insert(0, $value);
 ...

Things work but I can't single step "s" into ANY of these functions!  The
code just goes over them.

Any ideas on ... Why ActiveState gives the error?  Why I can't single step
into these functions?  How to proceed?

Thanks in advance for your attention.
Ray Smith





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Date: 06 Oct 1998 21:55:47 GMT
From: plambert$1@plambert.org
Subject: SSL support for perl server?
Message-Id: <361a91e3$0$26078@nntp1.ba.best.com>

I've written a simple, single-threaded server using perl5, a number
of useful books, and a lot of trial and error.  It's not a web server,
but instead used for some internal company work.

Currently, it just listens on a socket, sends data across, etc.  I'd
like to allow some sort of encryption, and SSL sounds like a nice idea.
However, I don't know what I need to do to support it.

Specifically, has anyone written any kind of a server which accepts
both SSL and cleartext connections?  (This would be necessary for a
while until all the clients can be updated...)

More importantly, how much work is it to implement?  I just have a 
select call right now looking at all the open sockets, and then deal
with each one in sequence when data is available.  How difficult would
it be to add SSL support to this sort of server?

Many thanks to anyone who can give me some pointers.  I've read the
SSLeay FAQ and the docs for Net::SSLeay, but I'm not familiar enough
with the SSL protocol to understand exactly what would be necessary
for me to get this to work.

My intention is not to provide financial-network-level security.  The
application is not nearly that important.  The primary goal is to 
prevent casual packet sniffing to see the traffic.  I've even considered
using simple obscurement (XOR or something similar), although I'd like
something a little stronger than that...

--Paul L.

-- 
And how do you know what you need to know?  Life has certain,
shall we say, boundary problems....  -- Todd Michel McComb



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Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 22:41:03 GMT
From: Randal Schwartz <merlyn@stonehenge.com>
Subject: Re: SSL support for perl server?
Message-Id: <8cr9wlxqir.fsf@gadget.cscaper.com>

>>>>> "1" == 1  <plambert> writes:

1> Specifically, has anyone written any kind of a server which accepts
1> both SSL and cleartext connections?  (This would be necessary for a
1> while until all the clients can be updated...)

There was a patch on the LWP mailing list a while back to allow
HTTP::Daemon to handle "https".  I don't think they ever got patched
into the core LWP though.  That'd be sad.

-- 
Name: Randal L. Schwartz / Stonehenge Consulting Services (503)777-0095
Keywords: Perl training, UNIX[tm] consulting, video production, skiing, flying
Email: <merlyn@stonehenge.com> Snail: (Call) PGP-Key: (finger merlyn@teleport.com)
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Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 22:46:08 GMT
From: Elaine -HappyFunBall- Ashton <eashton@bbnplanet.com>
Subject: Re: SSL support for perl server?
Message-Id: <361A9B37.9CC89102@bbnplanet.com>

plambert$1@plambert.org wrote:

> Currently, it just listens on a socket, sends data across, etc.  I'd
> like to allow some sort of encryption, and SSL sounds like a nice idea.
> However, I don't know what I need to do to support it.

Have a go at CPAN and check out Crypt::SSLeay and Net::SSL. One or both
of them should help you solve your problem.

e.

Da primeira vez era a cidade
           Da segunda o cais e a eternidade
						- Jobim -


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Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 20:45:11 GMT
From: mwwenzel@my-dejanews.com
Subject: still have open2 and open3 errors
Message-Id: <6vdvgn$oq4$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>

In article <F07w1s.I3H@news.boeing.com>,
  ced@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Charles DeRykus) wrote:
> In article <6uovu3$8mc$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
>  <mwwenzel@my-dejanews.com> wrote:
>  > When open2() or open3() fails because the exec of the program to run fails,
>  > is there a way to catch it?
>  >
>  > I have been using the following as a work-around:
>  >    use open3()
>  >    do a select on the error file handle with a 1 sec timeout
>  >    if select returns 1 then there is an error
>  >
>  > I have tried $pid = open2(....) or die ....
>  >
>  > I have also tried it in an eval block ... nothing seems to work.
>  >
>
>   $pid = open3( \*WTRFH, \*RDRFH, \*ERRFH, "/path/program 2>&3")
>     or die ...
>
> hth,
> --
> Charles DeRykus
>

The above does not work either.  Even if it did, why would you use 2>&3?
Mark

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Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 14:29:43 -0700
From: Bhasker Ravikanti <Bhasker.Ravikanti@CAS.Honeywell.Com>
Subject: Using open2() with Oracle svrmgrl
Message-Id: <361A8BC6.30D20DDF@CAS.Honeywell.Com>

Hi,

I am running into a problem when using open2() with Oracle's svrmgrl
under release 7.3.4.  The script works fine with release 7.3.3
Here is my script:

#!/usr/bin/perl

use FileHandle;
use IPC::Open2;

$pid = open2(\*SVROUT, \*SVRIN, "svrmgrl");

SVRIN->autoflush();

print SVRIN "exit;\n";
close(SVRIN);

while (<SVROUT>) {
 print;
}

close(SVROUT);
exit;

**********************
Here is the output when running under RDBMS 7.3.3

Oracle Server Manager Release 2.3.3.0.0 - Production

Copyright (c) Oracle Corporation 1994, 1995. All rights reserved.

Oracle7 Server Release 7.3.3.3.0 - Production Release
With the distributed, replication and parallel query options
PL/SQL Release 2.3.3.2.0 - Production

SVRMGR> Server Manager complete.

**********************************
Here is the output when running under RDBMS 7.3.4

Oracle Server Manager Release 2.3.4.0.0 - Production

Copyright (c) Oracle Corporation 1994, 1995. All rights reserved.

Oracle7 Server Release 7.3.4.0.0 - Production
With the distributed, replication and parallel query options
PL/SQL Release 2.3.4.0.0 - Production

SVRMGR> MGR-11401: input error, unable to read input line
MGR-01508: unable to close the current file

Any help would be appreciated
Thanks.
******************************************************
Bhasker Ravikanti,
Technical Senior Staff,
Honeywell S&AC Shared Services Team.




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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 16:06:42 -0500
From: "brettr" <brettr@centuryinter.net>
Subject: Re: What does $INPUT{'name'} =~ s/\s+$//; do?? (I'm a newbie)
Message-Id: <6ve108$35q$1@newsread1-mx.centuryinter.net>

What does the s/ do?

brettr

Elaine -HappyFunBall- Ashton wrote in message
<361A55F5.170AB3E7@bbnplanet.com>...
>Nancy wrote:
>
>> $INPUT{'name'} =~ s/\s+$//;
>> The only problem is that I don't know what this line do! I don't want
>> to delete it without knowing what it does!!
>
>This will do a match on more than one whitespace '\s+' to the end of the
>line '$' and substitute it with null '//'. See 'perldoc perlre' for more
>info on this.
>
>e.
>
>Que fiz tantos planos de me entregar
>  Como fiz enganos de me encontrar
>    Como fiz estradas de me perder
>      Fiz de tudo e nada de te esquecer. - Jobim -




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Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 21:56:47 GMT
From: Elaine -HappyFunBall- Ashton <eashton@bbnplanet.com>
Subject: Re: What does $INPUT{'name'} =~ s/\s+$//; do?? (I'm a newbie)
Message-Id: <361A8FA6.A2F32B28@bbnplanet.com>

brettr wrote:

> What does the s/ do?

Remember 'perldoc perlre'? s/ begins the substitution expression of
s/pattern/text/.

e.

Num cantinho um violco
Este amor, uma cangco
Pra fazer feliz a quem se ama
Muita calma pra pensar
E ter tempo pra sonhar		- Jobim -


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Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 16:43:51 -0500
From: Tk Soh <r28629@email.sps.mot.com>
Subject: Re: What does $INPUT{'name'} =~ s/\s+$//; do?? (I'm a newbie)
Message-Id: <361A8F17.64467EA3@email.sps.mot.com>

Nancy wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'm making some changes to a script. In the script a came across the
> following line:
> 
> $INPUT{'name'} =~ s/\s+$//;
> 

Quite simply, it removes the trailing whitespace characters in
$INPUT{'name'}.


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Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 15:12:28 -0700
From: Allen Choy <achoy@us.oracle.com>
Subject: What's is wrong here?
Message-Id: <361A95CC.310A6638@us.oracle.com>


This problem is driving me up the wall.

I'm trying to count the number of directory levels - simple enough.

$cnt = $foo =~ tr#/#/#;

This works just fine on regular unix.  But to work on multiple OS's, I
want to
do something like this:

$cnt = $foo =~ tr#$SEP#$SEP#;;

But it's not producing the same results.

I look at the Camel book, and it states that tr accepts a char list, so
if $SEP eq  '/',
it should work, right? Unless it's interpolating it in a way I'm not
familiar with.

Thanks in advance,

Allen

PS: I'm using 5.004 on Solaris.





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Date: 12 Jul 98 21:33:47 GMT (Last modified)
From: Perl-Request@ruby.oce.orst.edu (Perl-Users-Digest Admin) 
Subject: Special: Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 12 Mar 98)
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where x is the volume number and y is the issue number.

The Meta-FAQ, an article containing information about the FAQ, is
available by requesting "send perl-users meta-faq". The real FAQ, as it
appeared last in the newsgroup, can be retrieved with the request "send
perl-users FAQ". Due to their sizes, neither the Meta-FAQ nor the FAQ
are included in the digest.

The "mini-FAQ", which is an updated version of the Meta-FAQ, is
available by requesting "send perl-users mini-faq". It appears twice
weekly in the group, but is not distributed in the digest.

For other requests pertaining to the digest, send mail to
perl-users-request@ruby.oce.orst.edu. Do not waste your time or mine
sending perl questions to the -request address, I don't have time to
answer them even if I did know the answer.


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