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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 98 01:00:21 -0700
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Perl-Users Digest Tue, 1 Sep 1998 Volume: 8 Number: 3603
Today's topics:
Re: Better Regular Expressions (was: Re: Imagine... a n <uri@sysarch.com>
Re: Better Regular Expressions (was: Re: Imagine... a n (Ilya Zakharevich)
Re: Better Regular Expressions (was: Re: Imagine... a n <rootbeer@teleport.com>
Re: Better Regular Expressions (was: Re: Imagine... a n <ajohnson@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>
Re: Better Regular Expressions (was: Re: Imagine... a n <mee@mine.com>
Building perl 5.005_XXX on Linux (Alan E. Derhaag)
check part of a string (EkimicraD)
Re: check part of a string <Tony.Curtis+usenet@vcpc.univie.ac.at>
Re: check part of a string (Maurice Aubrey)
Re: Determining strlen (John Moreno)
Re: FMTEYEWTK on Switch Statements in Perl (was: No swi <metcher@spider.herston.uq.edu.au>
Re: FMTEYEWTK on Switch Statements in Perl (was: No swi (Ilya Zakharevich)
Freeing variables? <blok@physics.ubc.ca>
Re: Funny, that: $#myarray <rootbeer@teleport.com>
Re: Funny, that: $#myarray <cabney@cyberpass.net>
Help! How to switch usernames? (Ben Duncan)
Re: mod_perl configuration biken@my-dejanews.com
Re: Perl on linux sum@hal.com
sybperl Y2K compliant? (Mattias Nilsson)
URLencoding to create a clickable URL (Richard)
Re: URLencoding to create a clickable URL (Maurice Aubrey)
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Date: 01 Sep 1998 00:56:22 -0400
From: Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com>
Subject: Re: Better Regular Expressions (was: Re: Imagine... a non-greedy world!)
Message-Id: <x767f82zyh.fsf@sysarch.com>
>>>>> "M" == Mee <mee@mine.com> writes:
M> Tom,
M> If I am not mistaken, "You are a troll" around here
M> seems to be a standard expression for admitting being
M> defeated.
M> Thanks for trying,
mee,
you are more than a troll, but a low grade moron. you have not once
presented anything to back up your loose claims. you would lose in any
court of logic in any place in the world. you couldn't convince anyone
water is wet with your skills in debate. just put up some facts/code/or
shut up. no one here is defeated if he ever faces you. we are victorious
just in not being you.
write you own goddamned regex engine and language and stay the fuck out
of this newsgroup if you don't like perl. it is not for everyone and
most certainly not good enough for you. or rather you are not smart
enough for perl, which makes you dumb indeed, since high school kids
learn perl better than you. one high schooler was on the second place
team at the perl quiz at the conference and i would hire him over your
peabrain in a microsecond.
i enjoy flaming you since i feel no guilt because of your asinine
behaviour and lack of responses to direct questions and requests for
facts/code.
i am writing this for the amusement of the perl community and not for
your education which obviously stopped with toilet training. but not
late enough for you to stop wetting your bed with your pissing logic.
you know how everyone seems to have someone else worse off so they can
feel better. you have provided the perl community with the lowest rung
so we all will feel better knowing none of us are that low.
uri
--
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Perl Hacker for Hire ---------------------- Perl, Internet, UNIX Consulting
uri@sysarch.com ------------------------------------ http://www.sysarch.com
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Date: 1 Sep 1998 05:27:03 GMT
From: ilya@math.ohio-state.edu (Ilya Zakharevich)
Subject: Re: Better Regular Expressions (was: Re: Imagine... a non-greedy world!)
Message-Id: <6sg0j7$7ts$1@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
[A complimentary Cc of this posting was sent to Uri Guttman
<uri@sysarch.com>],
who wrote in article <x7btp034ol.fsf@sysarch.com>:
> >>>>> "IZ" == Ilya Zakharevich <ilya@math.ohio-state.edu> writes:
>
> IZ> Hmm, probably neither do I. Perl's RE can parse recursive structures,
> IZ> and, starting from 10 days ago, the syntax is not that bad.
>
> >> he juat wants what he wants without concern for how it gets done.
>
> well publish one that can strip HTML as that seems to be the most FAQ re re!
What for? I know I can do it ;-).
Ilya
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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 05:12:29 GMT
From: Tom Phoenix <rootbeer@teleport.com>
Subject: Re: Better Regular Expressions (was: Re: Imagine... a non-greedy world!)
Message-Id: <Pine.GSO.4.02A.9808312212100.21736-100000@user2.teleport.com>
On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Mee wrote:
> If I am not mistaken, "You are a troll" around here
> seems to be a standard expression for admitting being
> defeated.
You are mistaken. You are a troll. Go away.
--
Tom Phoenix Perl Training and Hacking Esperanto
Randal Schwartz Case: http://www.rahul.net/jeffrey/ovs/
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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 00:25:04 -0500
From: Andrew Johnson <ajohnson@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>
Subject: Re: Better Regular Expressions (was: Re: Imagine... a non-greedy world!)
Message-Id: <35EB8530.4757517@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>
Mee wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
> If I am not mistaken, "You are a troll" around here
> seems to be a standard expression for admitting being
> defeated.
>
> Thanks for trying,
doorknob
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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 00:00:23 -0700
From: Mee <mee@mine.com>
Subject: Re: Better Regular Expressions (was: Re: Imagine... a non-greedy world!)
Message-Id: <35EB9B87.3E7C703A@mine.com>
Tom,
>> You are mistaken. You are a troll. Go away. <<
If I may note: head banging is not likely to improve
your comprehension ability or reduce your obvious pain.
Mee
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Date: 01 Sep 1998 05:30:52 +0000
From: aderhaag@wolfenet.com (Alan E. Derhaag)
Subject: Building perl 5.005_XXX on Linux
Message-Id: <m3u32s5q7z.fsf@AlanNet.hiskingdom.com>
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I'm having problems building perl in a 80486 machine with Redhat 5.0.
The appears to be some kind of problem with I_SYS_SELECT or HAS_SELECT
for Configure and defaults to `int *' for selecttype. I modified this
to as the Configure script indicates for paramater 2,3 and 4 to
`fd_set *'.
Then the pp_sys.c compile bombs with:
`sh cflags libperl.a pp_sys.o` pp_sys.c
CCCMD = cc -DPERL_CORE -c -Dbool=char -DHAS_BOOL -I/usr/local/include -O2
In file included from /usr/include/sys/select.h:31,
from pp_sys.c:53:
/usr/include/selectbits.h:31: warning: `__FD_ZERO' redefined
/usr/include/asm/posix_types.h:61: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
/usr/include/selectbits.h:36: warning: `__FD_SET' redefined
/usr/include/asm/posix_types.h:41: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
/usr/include/selectbits.h:41: warning: `__FD_CLR' redefined
/usr/include/asm/posix_types.h:46: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
/usr/include/selectbits.h:50: warning: `__FD_ISSET' redefined
/usr/include/asm/posix_types.h:54: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
In file included from pp_sys.c:53:
/usr/include/sys/select.h:60: warning: `FD_SET' redefined
/usr/include/linux/time.h:30: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
/usr/include/sys/select.h:61: warning: `FD_CLR' redefined
/usr/include/linux/time.h:31: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
/usr/include/sys/select.h:62: warning: `FD_ISSET' redefined
/usr/include/linux/time.h:32: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
/usr/include/sys/select.h:63: warning: `FD_ZERO' redefined
/usr/include/linux/time.h:33: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
In file included from pp_sys.c:53:
/usr/include/sys/select.h:45: syntax error before `fd_mask'
/usr/include/sys/select.h:45: warning: empty declaration
/usr/include/sys/select.h:48: conflicting types for `fd_set'
/usr/include/linux/types.h:9: previous declaration of `fd_set'
/usr/include/sys/select.h:73: conflicting types for `__select'
/usr/include/sys/time.h:55: previous declaration of `__select'
/usr/include/sys/select.h:76: conflicting types for `select'
/usr/include/sys/time.h:58: previous declaration of `select'
pp_sys.c: In function `Perl_pp_sselect':
pp_sys.c:826: warning: passing arg 2 of `select' from incompatible pointer type
pp_sys.c:826: warning: passing arg 3 of `select' from incompatible pointer type
pp_sys.c:826: warning: passing arg 4 of `select' from incompatible pointer type
make: *** [pp_sys.o] Error 1
Now the warnings I can understand since /usr/include/linux/types.h
does redefine FD_SET, etc. But how can I get a syntax error with the
libc installed system include files?
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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 06:53:42 GMT
From: EkimicraD@xxx.xxx (EkimicraD)
Subject: check part of a string
Message-Id: <35eb98ba.82819359@news.wgn.net>
how do i check the first few chrs of a string?
example:
$test = "[ID:mark5]"
if ( first4letters = [ID: )
{
my body here
}
Please help
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http://www.inetwebsolutions.com
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http://www.inws.com/search
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Date: 01 Sep 1998 09:25:41 +0200
From: Tony Curtis <Tony.Curtis+usenet@vcpc.univie.ac.at>
Subject: Re: check part of a string
Message-Id: <7xbtp0z43u.fsf@salome.vcpc.univie.ac.at>
Re: check part of a string, EkimicraD <EkimicraD@xxx.xxx>
said:
EkimicraD> how do i check the first few chrs of a string?
EkimicraD> example:
EkimicraD> $test = "[ID:mark5]"
EkimicraD> if ( first4letters = [ID: )
You can use an anchored regexp, e.g.
if ( $test =~ /^\[ID:/ ) ...
==> perldoc perlre
and you can parenthesize other parts of the pattern in the
case that you want to match what follows the first 4 chars
too.
or substr()
==> perldoc -f substr
EkimicraD> { my body here }
exhibitionist eh? :-)
--
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Liechtensteinstrasse 22, A-1090 Wien, | <URI:http://www.vcpc.univie.ac.at/>
"You see? You see? Your stupid minds! | private email:
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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 07:48:24 GMT
From: maurice@hevanet.com (Maurice Aubrey)
Subject: Re: check part of a string
Message-Id: <slrn6un9m8.6ii.maurice@we-24-130-48-83.we.mediaone.net>
On Tue, 01 Sep 1998 06:53:42 GMT, EkimicraD <EkimicraD@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>how do i check the first few chrs of a string?
There are many ways.
>example:
>
>$test = "[ID:mark5]"
>
>if ( first4letters = [ID: )
> {
> my body here
> }
Here's one way:
if ($test =~ /^\[ID:/) {
# my body here
}
Here's another:
if (substr($test, 0, 4) eq '[ID:') {
# my body here
}
--
Maurice Aubrey <maurice@hevanet.com>
The man who asks of freedom anything other than itself is born to
be a slave.
- Alexis de Tocqueville
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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 01:34:10 -0400
From: phenix@interpath.com (John Moreno)
Subject: Re: Determining strlen
Message-Id: <1denl62.mbmk4h1fdslglN@roxboro0-054.dyn.interpath.net>
Dave Wreski <dave@nic.com> wrote:
> > /<A HREF=http:.*>/i
> >
> > But notice that this is a naive approach. Asterisks are greedy
> > matchers by default .. so you might end up matching something like:
> >
> > <A HREF="http://www.bla.com/>Click <bold>here</bold>
>
> Well, that's exactly what's happened, and I can't figure it out. Given
> the following string:
>
> <TD>
> <A HREF=http://www.mywebsite.com/url/goes/here>
> http://www.mywebsite.com/url/goes/here</A></TD>
>
> How can I just grab the data between the anchors, and not the actual URL
> itself? I figure I need to do something like find the '>http://' pattern,
> using index()? Then use strstr() to move to that point, but even once I
> do that, I can't figure out how to stop grabbing characters...
Try the below - with the warning again that you should use HTML::Parser
unless you have a very limited data set.
> Once I've done that, I then need to adjust the length of the text to 80
> characters or less..
>
> Thanks much for any ideas. I've been pushed into this, and just don't
> have the time to get up to speed before this project is due...
This works - but it probably only works with addresses you've built
yourself.
$str = '<TD><A
HREF=http://www.mywebsite.com/url/goes/here>http://www.mywebsite.com/url
/goes/here</A></TD>';
$str =~ s/.+?HREF=(http:.+?)>.+/$1/;
print $str;
--
John Moreno
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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 14:55:29 +1000
From: Jaime Metcher <metcher@spider.herston.uq.edu.au>
Subject: Re: FMTEYEWTK on Switch Statements in Perl (was: No switch statement in Perl??)
Message-Id: <35EB7E41.A5DBFBB@spider.herston.uq.edu.au>
Tom Christiansen wrote:
>
<snip lots of interesting stuff>
So, anybody read this far? :-)
>
Yeah. Wow. Thanks. I think I'll change my personal perl motto from
TIMTOWTDI to TAMTTOWTDI - There Are More Than Twenty-One Ways To Do It.
--
Jaime Metcher
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Date: 1 Sep 1998 05:34:12 GMT
From: ilya@math.ohio-state.edu (Ilya Zakharevich)
Subject: Re: FMTEYEWTK on Switch Statements in Perl (was: No switch statement in Perl??)
Message-Id: <6sg10k$a59$1@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
[A complimentary Cc of this posting was sent to Tom Christiansen
<tchrist@mox.perl.com>],
who wrote in article <6sfoh6$a66$1@csnews.cs.colorado.edu>:
> So, anybody read this far? :-)
Yes. But you omited the most efficient of them all: a RE with
embedded (?{ CODE }) blocks.
When this feature settles down, one of important optimizations may be
a transparent conversion of those 21 styles to this one.
Ilya
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 23:25:42 -0700
From: Rik Blok <blok@physics.ubc.ca>
Subject: Freeing variables?
Message-Id: <35EB9366.C25F2680@physics.ubc.ca>
How do I free memory used by variables? How can I watch the allocated
memory to be sure it is getting freed properly?
TIA, Rik.
--
Rik Blok <blok@physics.ubc.ca>
Department of Physics and Astronomy,
University of British Columbia, Canada
http://www.physics.ubc.ca/~blok/
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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 05:19:48 GMT
From: Tom Phoenix <rootbeer@teleport.com>
Subject: Re: Funny, that: $#myarray
Message-Id: <Pine.GSO.4.02A.9808312214150.21736-100000@user2.teleport.com>
On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, C. Abney wrote:
> > > but my recent experience tells me $#myarray gives me something more
> > > like the length of the first element in @myarray than the size of the
> > > entire array itself.
> >
> > The length of an element? Not in a million years. :-)
>
> Just how many monkeys are we talkin' about here? :) I'm telling you,
> for the test data, the number printed out for $#myarray/4 is 1
> (for "1. e4 c4"?) and scalar(@myarray) is 41 (the whole array).
If you've got 41 items in the array, $#myarray is 40. If you think that
something other than that is happening, could you make a small standalone
program which demonstrates the behavior you're seeing?
> > > use integer;
> >
> > Uh oh. Do you know what you're doing with this?
>
> Yeah, I want to get the number of rows I can print out four columns of
> data in. I turn it off right after this section of code.
No offense intended, but it sounds as if you don't know what you're doing
with this. It's not the same as wrapping int() around your expressions,
although the two methods may be functionally equivalent in some cases. But
if you want int(), write int(). (And if you need 'use integer' to show the
bug, it may well be a bug in Perl's integer-handling routines.)
Cheers!
--
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Randal Schwartz Case: http://www.rahul.net/jeffrey/ovs/
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 23:50:57 -0700
From: "C. Abney" <cabney@cyberpass.net>
To: Tom Phoenix <rootbeer@teleport.com>
Subject: Re: Funny, that: $#myarray
Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.02A.9808312236350.10674-100000@rodentia.cyberpass.net>
On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Tom Phoenix wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, C. Abney wrote:
[simian masterpiece, snipped]
> If you've got 41 items in the array, $#myarray is 40. If you think that
> something other than that is happening, could you make a small standalone
> program which demonstrates the behavior you're seeing?
Er, looks like I'm doing my thinking in Usenet. I wrote the test case,
and $#myarray works exactly as expected. Go figure! Maybe (don't have
the abortive code anymore) I was testing it before loading the array,
or something equally silly. I knew I was doing something wrong when
I posted this. I just needed someone to rub my nose in it. :)
> > > > use integer;
> > > Uh oh. Do you know what you're doing with this?
> > Yeah, I want to get the number of rows I can print out four columns of
> > data in. I turn it off right after this section of code.
>
> No offense intended, but it sounds as if you don't know what you're doing
> with this. It's not the same as wrapping int() around your expressions,
> although the two methods may be functionally equivalent in some cases. But
> if you want int(), write int(). (And if you need 'use integer' to show the
> bug, it may well be a bug in Perl's integer-handling routines.)
None taken, although I really don't understand, except that it does make
more sense to use 'int' given that I'm only manipulating one integer.
The Camel says I might get a performance boost if I don't have a FPU,
and I can forget about forgetting the explicit cast(?) within the
block. Why is using 'use integer' wrong if I segregate my variables?
-C
--
Internet Service Providers: MAKE MONEY FAST!!!!!!! TOTALLY LEGAL!
Collect UCE/UBE from your users, and $50 per incidence!
Offer only good in California, Nevada, and Washington. -C. Abney
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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 10:06:28 GMT
From: ben@isolve.net (Ben Duncan)
Subject: Help! How to switch usernames?
Message-Id: <35ebc4b3.13536109@news.netcom.ca>
Hi!
I have a perl script which is launched (as root) everytime my FreeBSD
machine is rebooted. The perl script needs to run as root initally as
it binds to a port < 1024.
My question is, how do I switch usernames in my perl script?
I'd rather not have my perl script running as root, it would be alot
better if I could switch to a unprivilaged user.
Any help would be great!
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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 07:12:39 GMT
From: biken@my-dejanews.com
Subject: Re: mod_perl configuration
Message-Id: <6sg6p7$lrq$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
In article <comdog-ya02408000R2808982119520001@news.panix.com>,
comdog@computerdog.com (brian d foy) wrote:
> In article <6s72au$7gi$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, marad@usa.net posted:
[snip]
> >Alias /perl/ /usr/apache/share/perl/
> ><Location /perl>
> >SetHandler perl-script
> >PerlHandler Apache::Registry
> >Options ExecCGI
> ></Location>
Try to include "PerlSendHeader On" within that <Location>.
/bik
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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 05:04:34 GMT
From: sum@hal.com
Subject: Re: Perl on linux
Message-Id: <6sfv92$eee$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
I had the same problem when I log into my linux as root.
Try logging in as a different user.
That fixed my problem.
In article <slrn6ul61k.5d.alastair@calliope.demon.co.uk>,
alastair@calliope.demon.co.uk wrote:
> Kevin Thorley <kthor@mail.idt.net> wrote:
> >Hi! I've been writing perl scripts for awhile on Win95, but recently
> >decided to install linux on my computer. Now I can't even get a
> >simple script to run! Perl is located at /usr/bin/perl, but when I
> >add this command as the first line of the script, it doesn't work :
> >#!/usr/bin/perl. The error message says something like program not
> >found. When I run the following from the command line though, it works
> >great:
> >
> > /usr/bin/perl perltest.pl
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Date: 1 Sep 1998 06:28:45 GMT
From: epkmann@epk.ericsson.se (Mattias Nilsson)
Subject: sybperl Y2K compliant?
Message-Id: <6sg46t$94k@newstoo.ericsson.se>
Hello
I am looking for information about sybperl 2.x and Y2K compliance.
I'm not too worried about that myself but we are working on a
project where we plan to use sybperl and the project manager will
not be happy until I find an official statement about sybperl and
Y2K compliance. Any help at all would be appreciated :)
/Mattias
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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 07:15:12 GMT
From: passion@freemail.nl (Richard)
Subject: URLencoding to create a clickable URL
Message-Id: <35eb9db3.1162124@news.Leiden.nl.net>
I have created a Perl database search engine. From a HTML form, I can
search the database with the 'POST'-method. Now I'm going to change
this to the 'GET'-method, for one reason:
I want to put clickable URL's on a page, which will activate the
search engine. The URL contains the necessary parameters to perform
the search.
I know how to decode the URL information to strings that the Perl
script can handle. It's something like this:
$value =~ tr/+/ /;
$value =~ s/%([a-fA-F0-9][a-fA-F0-9])/pack("C", hex($1))/eg;
But I can't find the reverse routine. How do I encode information
(variables and their value), so I can append it to an URL?
TIA,
Richard
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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 07:23:12 GMT
From: maurice@hevanet.com (Maurice Aubrey)
Subject: Re: URLencoding to create a clickable URL
Message-Id: <slrn6un871.6ii.maurice@we-24-130-48-83.we.mediaone.net>
On Tue, 01 Sep 1998 07:15:12 GMT, Richard <passion@freemail.nl> wrote:
>I know how to decode the URL information to strings that the Perl
>script can handle. It's something like this:
>
> $value =~ tr/+/ /;
> $value =~ s/%([a-fA-F0-9][a-fA-F0-9])/pack("C", hex($1))/eg;
>
>But I can't find the reverse routine. How do I encode information
>(variables and their value), so I can append it to an URL?
Sounds like you need the URI::Escape module, available at CPAN.
http://www.perl.com/CPAN-local/CPAN.html
--
Maurice Aubrey <maurice@hevanet.com>
The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are
injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say
there are twenty gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor
breaks my leg.
- Thomas Jefferson
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