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In search of suggestions: two hacks to enhance Athena.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (William Cattey)
Sat Sep 7 12:24:48 2002

Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 12:25:25 -0400
From: William Cattey <wdc@MIT.EDU>
To: linux-dev@MIT.EDU

At the moment, there are two rough edges to Athena that I'm interested 
in smoothing out, but I don't have anyone free to work on them. My 
purpose in writing this is to tap the talent pool and see if someone 
knows of a tool that fits the bill already, or is interested in doing 
the work.

I am interested in:

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1. A tool to switch between wired and wireless operation.

On my old RH 6.0 Sony Viao, I would run control-panel, then run the 
network config tool, and then click to choose which ever eth device 
corresponded to wired and wireless operation (it was always interesting 
to see which one landed on eth0 this time around.)

I see that nowadays Red Hat says, "Use linuxconf", but at the present 
moment (and probably for good reason) neither linuxconf, nor 
control-panel are installed on Athena.

Ideally there should be something that someone withOUT a lot of clue 
could use to say, "Use the wireless card now", and "Use the wired line 
now".  If windows can do this in a couple mouse clicks (and it does) 
then damn it, so should Athena Linux.  I think the real problem is that 
the various engineers  have individually decided that the system they're 
familiar with:
	control-panel/network
	linuxconf
	cardctl scheme
	sysconfig/network

is the one true way.  Unfortunately, if you sit down and watch someone 
who uses Athena Linux just fine, and then try and get them to use the 
present interfaces to JUST switch networking between wired and wireless, 
you see that the interfaces are ALL for sysadmins, not users.

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2. Tool to replicate IMAP hierarchy in AFS/UFS.

I don't know about you, but I'm still nervous about putting my email 
archives in IMAP.  They've spanned 3 email infrastructures as it is, and 
I use them actively.  I would feel a LOT more comfortable if there were 
an easy way to say, "back up my IMAP hierarchy into the directory X", 
and then, if I spazzed and blew away a message or folder, to restore 
that message or folder into my IMAP hierarchy.

Part of the problem is that there is no clear consensus on email archive 
formats.  The ONLY reason why I find myself preferring mh format for 
same is that each message is in its own file, and so I can use existing 
file tools to find the message I seek and to grab hold of it.  I've used 
file utilities to fool Evolution into getting hold of a mail message 
that was once a file, and restoring it into my IMAP, mh, or Evolution 
local archives.

This means that I can already use Evolution for the restore operation.  
(I could probably use Pine or, god forbid, mh as well.)  But neither 
Evolution nor pine, nor mh will create folders and sub folders in an mh 
hierarchy automatically.

What kind of rsync for IMAP could be created?

Thoughts?
Ideas?
Tropical fish?

-wdc


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