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Re: Interrealm support issues

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Derrick J Brashear)
Fri Jan 3 09:46:18 1997

Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:43:00 -0500 (EST)
From: Derrick J Brashear <shadow@DEMENTIA.ORG>
Reply-To: Derrick J Brashear <shadow@DEMENTIA.ORG>
To: zephyr@MIT.EDU
In-Reply-To: <9701031431.AA03343@portnoy.MIT.EDU>


>  For example, we should be able to setup a SIPB.MIT.EDU zephyr realm
>  which uses the ATHENA.MIT.EDU kerberos realm for authentication
>  (similar to how the sipb.mit.edu AFS cell uses ATHENA.MIT.EDU kerberos
>  authentication).

Been there done that. You won't find me arguing about this.
 
>  To do inter-realm zephyr properly, we need, most likely, to change the
>  protocol.  If we change the protocol, then none of the current
>  application will work, so we can feel free to change how zephyr
>  behaves (we can always provide backwards compatibility in the local
>  server).  The problem is that unless we make assumptions that probably
>  aren't valid, the protocol doesn't have enough fields to support
>  everything we want to do.

True, again.

>  If we're going to change the protocol, we might as well fix all of the
>  protocol problems, too.  I've heard ideas murmured about other
>  possible changes to the protocol.  Perhaps those people can chime in
>  with their ideas?

The current Z{Make,Read}Ascii need to die. A content type field should be
considered, at least, so that if I wanted to write what would essentially be a
MIME-capable Zephyr client I don't have to overload the body.

>  If we are not going to change the protocol, then we must make the
>  assumption that zephyr realm == zephyr kerberos realm == recipient
>  principal realm.

In which case it again becomes an argument of network bandwidth versus trust.
The server to server model has one other advantage I forgot to mention, and
that is simplicity; I need only know a single local server.

-D


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