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Re: Windows NetWork Neighborhood
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dave Broderick)
Tue Sep 18 15:43:00 2001
Message-Id: <200109181942.PAA16507@melbourne-city-street.mit.edu>
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:42:26 -0400
To: "Christopher Tresco" <ctresco@economics.mit.edu>
From: Dave Broderick <djbroder@MIT.EDU>
Cc: winpartners@mit.edu
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When you connect to another Windows machine, you can see ALL files on it, (if
you have permissions).
If I have a Win95 machine, I can log on to an NTFS machine and see all of its
files. I do this every day. I have a network with Win2k, WinNT, Win98, and
Win95 machines.
When you access another machine on a network, the other machine is showing you
its files, so the file system is irrelevant between Windows platforms (assumes
you are authenticated as user). My old Win 95 machine says "Can I see your
files?" If the Win2K host says "OK", then all file system stuf is managed by
the host machine.
The only time this would not be the case is where you take a disk drive
(physically) out of an NTFS machine (for example) and stick it in a Win9x
machine.
At 02:35 PM 9/18/2001 -0400, you wrote:
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> Shares are blind to filesystems.
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> Chris
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <mailto:mbryan@MIT.EDU>Michael Bryan
>> To: <mailto:jaglogow@MIT.EDU>Joseph A. Glogowski, Jr. ;
>> <mailto:itpartners@MIT.EDU>itpartners@MIT.EDU
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 2:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: Windows NetWork Neighborhood
>>
>> Could the problem be the file systems:
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>> Win98 can see FAT & Fat32
>> NT 4 can see FAT & NTFS
>> Win 2000 can see FAT, FAT32 and NTFS ( reason why 2000 can see all the
>> machines in the group)
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>> This is just a hunch I could be way off here.
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>> At 10:34 AM 9/18/2001 -0400, you wrote:
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>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have Win2000, WinNT4, Win95 and some Win98 machines on the MIT network,
>>> all with IP addresses.
>>>
>>> We have to share files across the network and I tried to setup a workgroup
>>> to share /exchange files.
>>>
>>> Trouble is some machines are visible and others are not. Most of the
>>> problems seem to be with teh NT machines, the Win2000 machines see all the
>>> machines in the group.
>>>
>>> Any ideas as to what could be wrong?
>>>
>>> Also, is it approved to use NetWork Neighborhood here at MIT?
>>>
>>> I've updated the SP to 6 on the NT machines.
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> ____________________________________
>> Michael Bryan (mbryan@mit.edu)
>> E19-504G
>> 258-8230
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> David J. Broderick
> djbroder@mit.edu
> Senior Audio Visual Specialist
> MIT AV 617 253 2808
> FAX 617 253 5945
> <http://web.mit.edu/djbroder/www>http://web.mit.edu/djbroder/www
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When you connect to another Windows machine, you can see ALL files on it,
(if you have permissions).<br>
If I have a Win95 machine, I can log on to an NTFS machine and see all of
its files. I do this every day. I have a network with Win2k, WinNT,
Win98, and Win95 machines. <br>
<br>
When you access another machine on a network, the other machine is
showing you its files, so the file system is irrelevant between Windows
platforms (assumes you are authenticated as user). My old Win 95 machine
says "Can I see your files?" If the Win2K host says
"OK", then all file system stuf is managed by the host
machine.<br>
<br>
The only time this would not be the case is where you take a disk drive
(physically) out of an NTFS machine (for example) and stick it in a Win9x
machine.<br>
<br>
At 02:35 PM 9/18/2001 -0400, you wrote: <br>
<font face="arial" size=2><blockquote type=cite cite>Shares are blind to
filesystems.</font><br>
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</font><font face="arial" size=2>Chris</font><br>
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<dd>----- Original Message ----- <font size=4>
<dd>From:</b><font size=4>
<a href="mailto:mbryan@MIT.EDU"><font size=4>Michael Bryan</a><font size=4> <font size=4>
<dd>To:</b><font size=4> <a href="mailto:jaglogow@MIT.EDU"><font size=4>Joseph A. Glogowski, Jr.</a><font size=4> ; <a href="mailto:itpartners@MIT.EDU"><font size=4>itpartners@MIT.EDU</a><font size=4> <font size=4>
<dd>Sent:</b><font size=4> Tuesday, September 18, 2001 2:19 PM<font size=4>
<dd>Subject:</b><font size=4> Re: Windows NetWork Neighborhood<br>
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<dd>Could the problem be the file systems:<br>
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<dd>Win98 can see FAT & Fat32
<dd>NT 4 can see FAT & NTFS
<dd>Win 2000 can see FAT, FAT32 and NTFS ( reason why 2000 can see all the machines in the group)<br>
<br>
<dd>This is just a hunch I could be way off here.<br>
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<dd>At 10:34 AM 9/18/2001 -0400, you wrote:<font size=4><blockquote type=cite cite>
<dd>Hi,<br>
<br>
<dd>I have Win2000, WinNT4, Win95 and some Win98 machines on the MIT network, all with IP addresses.<br>
<br>
<dd>We have to share files across the network and I tried to setup a workgroup to share /exchange files.<br>
<br>
<dd>Trouble is some machines are visible and others are not. Most of the problems seem to be with teh NT machines, the Win2000 machines see all the machines in the group.<br>
<br>
<dd>Any ideas as to what could be wrong?<br>
<br>
<dd>Also, is it approved to use NetWork Neighborhood here at MIT?<br>
<br>
<dd>I've updated the SP to 6 on the NT machines.<br>
<br>
<dd>Thank you in advance.<br>
<br>
<dd>Joe<br>
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<font size=4></blockquote>
<dd>____________________________________<font size=4>
<dd>Michael Bryan (mbryan@mit.edu)
<dd>E19-504G
<dd>258-8230 </b></blockquote><br>
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</font></b><x-tab> </x-tab>Senior Audio Visual Specialist <BR>
<x-tab> </x-tab>MIT AV 617 <b>253 2808 <BR>
</b><x-tab> </x-tab>FAX 617 253 5945 <BR>
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