[575] in winnt
Re: Problems with Installing Office 2000 on an NTFS partitionon a W2K
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Barbara Santorella)
Fri Oct 6 12:18:42 2000
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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 12:17:38 -0400
From: Barbara Santorella <bsantore@MIT.EDU>
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To: Jesse Morrison <jessem@MIT.EDU>
Cc: Bryant Christian Vernon <bcvernon@MIT.EDU>, ntpartners@MIT.EDU,
dlp-net@MIT.EDU, cts-net@MIT.EDU, dept-comp@MIT.EDU
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I found a work around that I think is a better solution for a machine with apps
already installed with windows2000 on an NTFS partition than:
1. wiping out the partition and installing NT4, all the apps, and then upgrading
to w2k
or
2. formatting the partition with FAT, installing the apps and then converting to
to NTFS.
I created a global group at the PDC, which I called "computerA-w2k-workaround"
(where "computerA" is the name of the computer) and put all users who will use
that machine into that global group. Then, I used User Manager for computerA and
added the "computerA-w2k-workaround" global group to the local "Power Users"
group. Now, the users who log into this machine will be "power users" on this
machine and be able to run the software.
Obviously, if you are setting up a new machine, (and already know about this bug)
Jesse or Bryant's suggestions are much better.
Jesse Morrison wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I had actually encountered a few pemissions-related errors when I built a
> win2000 machine from the ground up. Both Netscape and (if I remember)
> Brioquery 5.5 had issues running as a regular User. I built another
> machine using NT 4, installed all my apps, then upgraded to win2000 sp-1.
> Guess what? No errors :)
>
> Jesse
>
> At 12:36 PM 10/5/2000 -0400, Barbara Santorella wrote:
> >I am pretty sure that sr-1 for Office 2000
> >http://www.microsoft.com/office/details/SR1.htm corrects this problem. I
> >have also discovered that Netscape (I've tried MIT versions 4.61 and 4.74 as
> >well as 4.75 directly from the Netscape site) will not work for ordinary
> >users on a W2K machine on an NTFS volume. It will work for domain or
> >machine administrators. It will also work if you make the user a member of
> >the Power Users group. This problem with Netscape (and likely any other
> >product that doesn't exactly meet MS installer standards) does not occur on
> >machines that have been upgraded to W2K (as opposed to clean installs). I
> >have not been able to find a fix for this problem, has anyone else ran into
> >this problem?
> >
> >Bryant Christian Vernon wrote:
> >
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> I have noticed that when I install Office 2000 (from an administrative
> >> share) to an NTFS partition on a W2K machine, I encounter a number of
> >> registry/file system permission errors. These problems occur because
> >> the installer locks down certian files insanely tightly, even to the
> >> point of shutting out the administrator and system accounts.
> >> Unfortunately, you cannot reverse these setting in 2000 (the explorer
> >> crashes when you try), and you have to connect to the machine via the
> >> administrative share from an NT box and reset them. The directory in
> >> question is the C:\WINNT\INSTALLER and all its subdirectories. As for
> >> the registry problems you encounter, I am still looking for a solution
> >> to them--they primarily manifest themselves by popping up a "please wait
> >> while the installation finishes" dialog box when you open any Microsoft
> >> Office product.
> >>
> >> All of these problems can be avoided if the partition on the 2000
> >> machine is FAT during the installation. If you are setting up a new
> >> computer, then I implore you to wait until you have finished installing
> >> all the program files before you convert the partition to NTFS. The
> >> problems will not occur if you convert to NTFS after the programs are
> >> installed.
> >>
> >> I want to thank Catherine Riordan (network administrator for the
> >> Department of Linguistics and Philosophy). She has helped a lot by
> >> searching Technet and also doing a number of tests on PCs in the domain
> >> she administers. I will ask her for a list of the Technet articles she
> >> found relating to this matter and will email them to you as soon as I
> >> get them.
> >>
> >> All the Best,
> >> Bryant
> >
