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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (michel thommeret)
Sun Jun 18 12:39:34 2006
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Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:39:48 +0300
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Folks, You are getting this message because you were one of: - at the WinNT
meeting on 2/18 after ocmg that day - recommended to be on the winnt list by
someone else I'd like to see if we can organize a virtual task force to
tackle the WinNT problem over the next few months. It's clear from the
meeting notes and from discussions with a diverse group of folks that NT
needs to be addressed and that there are many, many pieces of the puzzle
spread thinly across many people. Some Objectives of this group I would list
include these: - collect opinions on what the list of support and deployment
issues really are. The many points of view revealed in the 2/18 meeting can
come together to make a list of, what, ten biggies? - debate and define our
current answers to each of the issues above. No answer is set in stone, in
this fast moving product-driven world, but we need to have _an_ answer, the
latest best answer, available at all times. - portray our recommendations or
current best practices in some form, so that members of the mit community
can relate their own efforts to those going on here. - develop timelines for
specific processes or projects that help get the above to happen and stay on
track. Some Products of the working group would include: - web pages
depicting the issues and answers about NT at MIT. There's a corollary in the
win95 support pages, but I imagine the WinNT would be much more fully
fleshed since WinNT is more officially part of MIT than '95 ever was. -
short papers about emerging technical issues and how NT relates to them --
DHCP, NDS, Kerberos and NT 5, etc. Customers could read these when they have
bright ideas about implementing new technologies in their labs or offices.
To help facilitate this effort, I've assembled some Resources: - the "winnt"
mailing list - as the working list of people who want to be part of the
project - the "winnt" discuss meeting on menelaus - to record the discussion
- the "winnt" access control list and athena locker - to hold web pages,
etc., that act as tools for thinking, and as a presentation interface to
ourselves and to the public about the current thinking in I/S about the
problem. I think we all agree that something needs to be done about all
this, but we need some help getting started with thinking about what "all
this" is and what it would mean to "do something about it". I'm happy to
commit what resources I have available to help coordinate things and keep
the work moving forward. I'm happy to have company in that too. Do we need
to meet to discuss setting some expectations on Scope and Goals, perhaps set
a broad Schedule, identify some Products and the Resources it would take to
do them? How does everyone think about trying to do this without adding much
to the meeting burden? If you want to be added to or removed from the winnt
list, any member of the list can add or remove users including themselves.
Or send me mail and I'll take care of it. I'm looking forward to what others
think about what we should be doing next.
Thanks! Rob -----------
Rob Smyser Computing Help Desk, MIT Information Systems, 11-226
smyser@mit.edu (617) 253 1358
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<P><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">Folks, You are getting this message =
because you were one of: - at the WinNT meeting on 2/18 after ocmg that =
day - recommended to be on the winnt list by someone else I'd like to =
see if we can organize a virtual task force to tackle the WinNT problem =
over the next few months. It's clear from the meeting notes and from =
discussions with a diverse group of folks that NT needs to be addressed =
and that there are many, many pieces of the puzzle spread thinly across =
many people. Some Objectives of this group I would list include these: - =
collect opinions on what the list of support and deployment issues =
really are. The many points of view revealed in the 2/18 meeting can =
come together to make a list of, what, ten biggies? - debate and define =
our current answers to each of the issues above. No answer is set in =
stone, in this fast moving product-driven world, but we need to have =
_an_ answer, the latest best answer, available at all times. - portray =
our recommendations or current best practices in some form, so that =
members of the mit community can relate their own efforts to those going =
on here. - develop timelines for specific processes or projects that =
help get the above to happen and stay on track. Some Products of the =
working group would include: - web pages depicting the issues and =
answers about NT at MIT. There's a corollary in the win95 support pages, =
but I imagine the WinNT would be much more fully fleshed since WinNT is =
more officially part of MIT than '95 ever was. - short papers about =
emerging technical issues and how NT relates to them -- DHCP, NDS, =
Kerberos and NT 5, etc. Customers could read these when they have bright =
ideas about implementing new technologies in their labs or offices. To =
help facilitate this effort, I've assembled some Resources: - the =
"winnt" mailing list - as the working list of people who want =
to be part of the project - the "winnt" discuss meeting on =
menelaus - to record the discussion - the "winnt" access =
control list and athena locker - to hold web pages, etc., that act as =
tools for thinking, and as a presentation interface to ourselves and to =
the public about the current thinking in I/S about the problem. I think =
we all agree that something needs to be done about all this, but we need =
some help getting started with thinking about what "all this" =
is and what it would mean to "do something about it". I'm =
happy to commit what resources I have available to help coordinate =
things and keep the work moving forward. I'm happy to have company in =
that too. Do we need to meet to discuss setting some expectations on =
Scope and Goals, perhaps set a broad Schedule, identify some Products =
and the Resources it would take to do them? How does everyone think =
about trying to do this without adding much to the meeting burden? If =
you want to be added to or removed from the winnt list, any member of =
the list can add or remove users including themselves. Or send me mail =
and I'll take care of it. I'm looking forward to what others think about =
what we should be doing next.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman"> Thanks! Rob ----------- </FONT>
<BR><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">Rob Smyser Computing Help Desk, MIT =
Information Systems, 11-226 smyser@mit.edu (617) 253 1358 </FONT>
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