[2821] in Vegetarian_Support_Group
Re: [Fwd: Message from McDonald's Corp.]
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Laura Dilley)
Mon Mar 8 10:37:48 2004
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Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 10:37:40 -0500
From: Laura Dilley <dilley@MIT.EDU>
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To: Anne Pollock <apollock@mit.edu>
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Hi Anne,
Yes, I knew that there was a big stink over the use of beef flavoring in the
fries. Thankfully, I believe this matter was settled and that McD's changed
the oil so that they no longer used beef extract. However, I looked on the web
and was only able to find links to the fact that they use a different oil, but
no links confirming that they no longer use beef extract. Anyone know for
sure? I could have sworn I read that such a change came about when the Hindus
and veggies won the lawsuit.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2235018.stm
Prior to last year I never bought anything at McD's out of principle, but last
year they started making changes to improve the conditions for animals that
end up at their restaurant. So, I still avoid them and will do so until they
introduce a veggie burger, but it seems less awful to buy there now. McD's
choice to start enforcing minimal animal welfare rules is BIG news. Here are
some articles:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/11/05/eveningnews/main582028.shtml
http://www.business-ethics.com/McDonalds-Animals.htm
http://www.upc-online.org/fall2003/mcd.htm
Laura
Anne Pollock wrote:
> hi laura--
>
> you may not be aware that mcdonalds fries (in the u.s.) are not vegetarian
> either. although prepared in vegetable oil, they are first seasoned with
> beef. this has been documented in the book *fast food nation* and
> admitted by mcdonalds, who has been sued by hindus who argued that
> restaurants should make clear when there is beef in something no one would
> assume contained it. the amounts are small and you may not care, but
> the beef is there.
>
> in mcdonalds in india, there are no beef products in the entire restaurant
> and the fries taste very different. there is also a full vegetarian menu
> at the mcdonalds there, cooked in a separate kitchen area. i wouldn't
> trust anything at any mcdonalds in the u.s. to be vegetarian.
>
> --anne
>
> On Mon, 8 Mar 2004, Laura Dilley wrote:
>
> > Hey everybody,
> >
> > It is always good to express your opinions about menu options!
> >
> > I wrote McDonald's, and they sent this response.
> >
> > Just think if everyone who was veg did something like this!
> >
> > Laura
> >
> >
> > --
> > Laura Dilley
> > Ph.D. Candidate
> > Speech and Hearing Bioscience
> > and Technology
> > Harvard-MIT Division of Health
> > Sciences and Technology
> >
> >
--
Laura Dilley
Ph.D. Candidate
Speech and Hearing Bioscience
and Technology
Harvard-MIT Division of Health
Sciences and Technology
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Hi Anne,
<p>Yes, I knew that there was a big stink over the use of beef flavoring
in the fries. Thankfully, I believe this matter was settled and that McD's
changed the oil so that they no longer used beef extract. However, I looked
on the web and was only able to find links to the fact that they use a
different oil, but no links confirming that they no longer use beef extract.
Anyone know for sure? I could have sworn I read that such a change came
about when the Hindus and veggies won the lawsuit.
<p><A HREF="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2235018.stm">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2235018.stm</A>
<p>Prior to last year I never bought anything at McD's out of principle,
but last year they started making changes to improve the conditions for
animals that end up at their restaurant. So, I still avoid them and will
do so until they introduce a veggie burger, but it seems less awful to
buy there now. McD's choice to start enforcing minimal animal welfare rules
is BIG news. Here are some articles:
<p><A HREF="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/11/05/eveningnews/main582028.shtml">http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/11/05/eveningnews/main582028.shtml</A>
<br><A HREF="http://www.business-ethics.com/McDonalds-Animals.htm">http://www.business-ethics.com/McDonalds-Animals.htm</A>
<br><b><A HREF="http://www.upc-online.org/fall2003/mcd.htm">http://www.upc-online.org/fall2003/mcd.htm</A></b><b></b>
<p><b>Laura</b>
<br><b></b>
<br><b></b> <b></b>
<p>Anne Pollock wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>hi laura--
<p>you may not be aware that mcdonalds fries (in the u.s.) are not vegetarian
<br>either. although prepared in vegetable oil, they are first seasoned
with
<br>beef. this has been documented in the book *fast food nation*
and
<br>admitted by mcdonalds, who has been sued by hindus who argued that
<br>restaurants should make clear when there is beef in something no one
would
<br>assume contained it. the amounts are small and you may not care,
but
<br>the beef is there.
<p>in mcdonalds in india, there are no beef products in the entire restaurant
<br>and the fries taste very different. there is also a full vegetarian
menu
<br>at the mcdonalds there, cooked in a separate kitchen area. i
wouldn't
<br>trust anything at any mcdonalds in the u.s. to be vegetarian.
<p>--anne
<p>On Mon, 8 Mar 2004, Laura Dilley wrote:
<p>> Hey everybody,
<br>>
<br>> It is always good to express your opinions about menu options!
<br>>
<br>> I wrote McDonald's, and they sent this response.
<br>>
<br>> Just think if everyone who was veg did something like this!
<br>>
<br>> Laura
<br>>
<br>>
<br>> --
<br>> Laura Dilley
<br>> Ph.D. Candidate
<br>> Speech and Hearing Bioscience
<br>> and Technology
<br>> Harvard-MIT Division of Health
<br>> Sciences and Technology
<br>>
<br>></blockquote>
<p>--
<br>Laura Dilley
<br>Ph.D. Candidate
<br>Speech and Hearing Bioscience
<br> and Technology
<br>Harvard-MIT Division of Health
<br> Sciences and Technology
<br> </html>
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