[7954] in testers
Re: Debathena feedback
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Evan Broder)
Mon Mar 16 20:06:02 2009
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:05:01 -0400
From: Evan Broder <broder@MIT.EDU>
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To: Jared Sadoian <sadoian@mit.edu>
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Hey Jared -
We're sort of roughly aware of problems with logouts (and logins)
taking a while.
There are two different issues here. First, logging out on Debathena is
a much less...violent process than it was in Athena 9. For example,
applications should prompt you to save before logging out, as opposed to
just being spontaneously killed. We think this is a major UI
improvement, but it does add to the logout time.
The other issue is related to the isolation mechanisms we have in place.
These mechanisms should allow you to make a wide variety of
modifications to a cluster machine while you're sitting there without
having them persist past your session. However, it does also cause the
logout to take longer.
We're planning to deploy some new code soon that will hopefully help us
track down what part of the process is slow; it's our hope that that
will help us iron out some of the slowness.
- Evan
Jared Sadoian wrote:
> Thanks Evan,
>
> Yeah, I just wanted to pass it along.
>
> Another thing I've been noticing is that it's taking a very long time
> for a workstation to log me out of my profile - today it was over 60
> seconds before anything happened. I didn't have any applications
> running (just looking at my desktop), and so I wasn't sure what was
> going on.
>
> Logout times for me have been ranging between 15-45 seconds or so -
> from the time I click the logout button and when my desktop finally
> disappears.
>
> -Jared
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Evan Broder <broder@mit.edu
> <mailto:broder@mit.edu>> wrote:
>
> Hi Jared -
> Thanks for the suggestion. I think it's pretty probable that we'll
> add the terminal icon back to the panel for the final release. In the
> mean time, you can add it to the panel yourself:
>
> * Right click on the panel and choose "Add to Panel..."
> * Select "Application Launcher..." and click Forward
> * Find "Terminal" under the "Accessories" menu and click Add
> * Then click Close
>
> You should be able to drag the icon around to position it where you
> want, although you may need to right click on other panel elements and
> uncheck "Lock to panel" if you want to move those around as well.
>
> - Evan
>
> Jared Sadoian wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I'm using one of the Debathena Beta Workstations in the Student
> Center.
> >
> > It might be helpful for novice users to include the
> quicklaunch-esque
> > icons for important programs similarly to how the old Athena
> boxes are
> > configured. I had some trouble myself trying to figure out how
> to get
> > a terminal window up on my screen. :)
> >
> > Just a thought, otherwise, I love it!
> >
> > -Jared
>
>
