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Re: Unstripped binaries and .deleted

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Greg Hudson)
Tue Jul 27 09:39:53 1999

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To: Matt Braun <matt@MIT.EDU>
cc: release-team@MIT.EDU, ops@MIT.EDU
In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Jul 1999 00:42:41 EDT."
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:39:41 EDT
From: Greg Hudson <ghudson@MIT.EDU>

> 1) There is 28 Meg of .unstripped programs.  It might be prudent
> (especially if the amount of unstripped programs for debugging will
> grow) to make a seperate section of the srvd in subvolume for these
> files.  This way we don't need to replicate the unstripped versions
> of things all over, but they are available in an 'obvious' place if
> needed.

It's not necessary to move them to a separate location not to copy
them.  You can make a .rconf rule to ignore *.unstripped files.

Also, we're not going to get some huge growth in .unstripped programs.
They're only there in the Solaris srvd for programs tracked onto the
local disk, which is a small subset of the programs we install.

> 2) What is the criteria for things in .deleted?  I thought it was
> because long running programs (like emacs, zwgc, etc) tended to die
> when the binaries changed out from under them.  If that is the case
> why are the lp* commands there?  They are not exactly 'persistant'
> commands and in the case of lpq and lprm there is no danger of
> losing data if they crash.

For the athena cell release, I consider it sufficiently likely that an
lpr/lprm/lpq command will dump core that I generally instruct ops to
copy them into .deleted when I change them.  It's certainly more
likely for long-running processes, but it could happen to any command.

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