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Re: Browser Functions for Consultants & Desktop Users

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David F Lambert)
Wed Nov 1 08:20:55 2000

Message-Id: <10011011320.AA05470@MIT.EDU>
Date:         Wed, 01 Nov 00 08:10:35 EST
From: David F Lambert <LAMBERT@MITVMA.MIT.Edu>
To: Enterprise Printing Delivery Project Team <printdel@MIT.EDU>,
        Carol J Wood <cwood@MIT.EDU>
In-Reply-To:  Message of Tue, 31 Oct 2000 22:00:25 -0500 from <durland@mit.edu>

Lynne,

Would you mind following up with Banta or Cogswell on the issues around
the canceling of an actively printing file?  There may also be differences
in how this is accomplished (or if it is doable) across HP type
printers versus IBM IP* printers.  I understand the other issue you
mentioned re the remote canceling of an actively printing file on
a central printer - this could cause confusion with the ops but I
think it's worth pursuing the function.

Thanks for correcting me on the terminology around queues vs logical
destinations.  I still don't have that mapping down in my puny brain.
I was thinking a little further down the calendar on this function.
I was envisioning that IPM was managing the SAP distributed printers
and that it would be useful if end users could move a file to a
different destination if their primary local printer is down.

-Dave

On Tue, 31 Oct 2000 22:00:25 -0500 Lynne said:
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>Dave and all....
>
>I think that the only iffy, item on your lists is deleting a file being
>printed.  I think to do that you need to stop/disable the printer first.
>
>held or waiting files can be removed without a problem, but once the
>printer or the preprocessing for print has started, there are more steps to
>be done before deletion.
>
>There are a few more comments down below...I stopped and reread this a
>second time......
>
>Lynne
>
>At 05:32 PM 10/31/2000 -0500, David F Lambert wrote:
>>Here's my draft list of browser functions for desktop users and
>>consultants.  It includes feedback I just got from Theresa.  Your
>>comments would be greatly appreciated.  I'm including Carol Wood
>>on this note to see if the BLT would like additional functions
>>in the browser interface for her consultants.
>>                                                   -Dave
>>
>>
>>Desktop User Browser Functions:
>>- submit a file
>>- display the list of all queued files (not just the owner's files)
>>- display file information on my actively printing file
>>- delete my file(s)
>>- move my file(s) to another queue
>
>(logical destination...........not queue...there should for the first set
>of production printing only be 1 queue, but multiple logical
>destinations)  And again you need to be very careful about this.....the
>line printer files that will be sent for use with the afp
>resources...(think flash forms)  shouldn't be moved to a passthrough
>postscript printer.  So we may want to be careful about this one.
>
>>- cancel my actively printing file (is this possible?)
>>
>>Consultant Browser Functions:
>>- display the list of all queued files
>>- display file information on any actively printing file
>>- delete any queued file(s)
>>- move any file to another queue
>>- cancel any actively printing file (if possible)
>
>I think this one can work, but would require training and coordination of
>efforts, so that blt/hd doesn't stop a printer to delete a file and the ops
>just see printer stop and restart it .....endless cycle and frustration.
>
>
>
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><font size=3>Dave and all....<br>
><br>
>I think that the only iffy, item on your lists is deleting a file being
>printed.&nbsp; I think to do that you need to stop/disable the printer
>first.<br>
><br>
>held or waiting files can be removed without a problem, but once the
>printer or the preprocessing for print has started, there are more steps
>to be done before deletion.<br>
><br>
>There are a few more comments down below...I stopped and reread this a
>second time......<br>
><br>
>Lynne<br>
><br>
>At 05:32 PM 10/31/2000 -0500, David F Lambert wrote:<br>
><blockquote type=cite cite>Here's my draft list of browser functions for
>desktop users and<br>
>consultants.&nbsp; It includes feedback I just got from Theresa.&nbsp;
>Your<br>
>comments would be greatly appreciated.&nbsp; I'm including Carol
>Wood<br>
>on this note to see if the BLT would like additional functions<br>
>in the browser interface for her consultants.<br>
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>-Dave<br>
><br>
><br>
>Desktop User Browser Functions:<br>
>- submit a file<br>
>- display the list of all queued files (not just the owner's files)<br>
>- display file information on my actively printing file<br>
>- delete my file(s)<br>
>- move my file(s) to another queue</font></blockquote><br>
>(logical destination...........not queue...there should for the first set
>of production printing only be 1 queue, but multiple logical
>destinations)&nbsp; And again you need to be very careful about
>this.....the line printer files that will be sent for use with the afp
>resources...(think flash forms)&nbsp; shouldn't be moved to a passthrough
>postscript printer.&nbsp; So we may want to be careful about this
>one.<br>
><br>
><blockquote type=cite cite><font size=3>- cancel my actively printing
>file (is this possible?)<br>
><br>
>Consultant Browser Functions:<br>
>- display the list of all queued files<br>
>- display file information on any actively printing file<br>
>- delete any queued file(s)<br>
>- move any file to another queue<br>
>- cancel any actively printing file (if possible)
></font></blockquote><br>
>I think this one can work, but would require training and coordination of
>efforts, so that blt/hd doesn't stop a printer to delete a file and the
>ops just see printer stop and restart it .....endless cycle and
>frustration.<br>
><br>
><br>
></html>
>
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