[2306] in Enterprise Print Delivery Team
RE: Request for New Web Interface Function Etc.
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rocklyn E. Clarke)
Thu Feb 21 14:52:17 2002
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Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 14:52:12 -0500
To: "Dave Dow" <davedow@us.ibm.com>
From: "Rocklyn E. Clarke" <rclarke@MIT.EDU>
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Hi Dave,
Here are some answers:
1. Adding the document formats to the Job Submission Page:
-----------------------------------------------------------
The development machine is up, but it does not yet have all of the
necessary software (e.g. Apache, LPRng) running on it. We hope to
have this situation resolved soon however, so I will let you know
when it is ready so that we can test your code.
It is okay to charge us 6 hours for this task. Please let me know
where our account stands. Our original purchase order specified and
initial pool of 45 hours of support. How many have we used so far?
2. Revising the User Information Database
I appreciate your desire to give us as accurate an estimate as
possible. I assume that 2 - 3 days means 16 - 24 hours. If so, then
we will have to swallow hard and think about this a bit. I will
await your next pass at the estimate.
Rocklyn
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At 12:31 PM -0700 2/20/02, Dave Dow wrote:
>Hi Rocklyn,
>Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner about this.....
>I just finished your request to determine the format of the document
>on the Job Submission page. It took me a little longer than
>anticipated (6 hours) because I was trying to come up with the
>cleanest way of adding this code so we didn't have any new files to
>maintain and I spent additional time testing jobs with various
>special characters. The best way I came up with is adding a few
>lines in mit_jobs.pl and mit_ping.pl.
>
>Now for a couple of questions.
>1. Do you have the development machine up & running so I can install
>my changes out on the dev system? If so, when I get things up &
>running on the dev system, would you like to check it out first
>before I move it into the production system (hopefully, you answer
>yes to this ;-) )?
>2. Is it okay that I charge you 6 hours for this task (even though I
>estimated 4)? This would include the time I take to migrate things
>to your dev & production systems.
>
>I'm going to think more about my estimate on the below task (my
>original estimate was 2-3 days), but after missing my last estimate
>by 50%, I want to understand EXACTLY what I need to do (including
>testing). My original coding estimate was pretty close, but I found
>some issues testing and had to go back and modify the way I was
>outputting the message in the pop-up window.
>
>I'll send you an estimate first thing tomorrow morning regarding the
>below task.
>Dave
>
>
>
>"Rocklyn E. Clarke" <rclarke@MIT.EDU>
>Sent by: MIT InfoPrint Manager System Administration <IPM-SYS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>
>02/11/2002 03:31 PM
>Please respond to MIT InfoPrint Manager System Administration
>
> To: IPM-SYS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> cc:
> Subject: For IBM: Request for New Web Interface Function Etc.
>
>
>
>
>Hello Dave,
>
>We would like to have a component of the web interface expanded in
>order to accomodate new functionality.
>
>As you know, the web interface currently utilizes a user information
>database comprising the following fields:
>
>Kerberos Principal
>Account Number
>Building
>Room Number
>
>This database is used by both the web interface, and the LPRng
>filter code to associate charge and delivery information with
>submitted print jobs. The existing web interface includes two web
>forms that interact with this database:
>
>https://pillage.mit.edu/submission/job_submission.html
>
>https://pillage.mit.edu/accountinfo/accountinfo.html
>
>We want to have this database enhanced so that it will support the
>following two new functions:
>
>1. Allow help desk staff to lookup and modify information for another user
>2. Allow the database to store data for selected print queues (i.e. logical
> destinations) as well as for kerberos principals
>
>Towards this end, we want the database itself to be enhanced to
>include the following fields (new fields are prefixed with "N"):
>
>N Type of record (e.g. "USERID", "QUEUE")
>- Key Value (i.e. kerberos principal or queue name)
>- Account Number (should be renamed "Cost Object" in web forms)
>- Building
>- Room Number
>N Timestamp (yyyy-mm-dd-hh.mm.ss) of last update to the record
>N Kerberos Principal that submitted the update
>
>We also want an additional web form which system administrators or
>help desk staff can use to create or update records. This form
>would have to be different from the "Account Info" form because it
>would have to provide space for entering the type and key value
>fields. The two existing web forms should continue to work in the
>same way that they currently do. I expect that we will need to have
>further discussions in order to fully flesh out this request.
>
>Please begin reviewing the code to determine if you need any
>additional information from us in order to implement this
>enhancement. We would also appreciate a preliminary estimate of the
>amount of billable time that this enhancement will require and when
>you could have it completed?
>
>
>Thanks,
>Rocklyn
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<div>Hi Dave,</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Here are some answers:</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>1. Adding the document formats to the Job Submission
Page:</div>
<div>-----------------------------------------------------------</div>
<div>The development machine is up, but it does not yet have all of
the necessary software (e.g. Apache, LPRng) running on it. We
hope to have this situation resolved soon however, so I will let you
know when it is ready so that we can test your code.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>It is okay to charge us 6 hours for this task. Please let
me know where our account stands. Our original purchase order
specified and initial pool of 45 hours of support. How many have
we used so far?</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>2. Revising the User Information Database</div>
<div>I appreciate your desire to give us as accurate an estimate as
possible. I assume that 2 - 3 days means 16 - 24 hours. If
so, then we will have to swallow hard and think about this a bit.
I will await your next pass at the estimate.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Rocklyn</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
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<div>At 12:31 PM -0700 2/20/02, Dave Dow wrote:</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">Hi Rocklyn,</font><br>
<font size="-1">Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner about
this.....</font><br>
<font size="-1">I just finished your request to determine the format
of the document on the Job Submission page. It took me a little
longer than anticipated (6 hours) because I was trying to come up with
the cleanest way of adding this code so we didn't have any new files
to maintain and I spent additional time testing jobs with various
special characters. The best way I came up with is adding a few
lines in mit_jobs.pl and mit_ping.pl.</font><br>
<br>
<font size="-1">Now for a couple of questions.</font><br>
<font size="-1">1. Do you have the development machine up &
running so I can install my changes out on the dev system? If
so, when I get things up & running on the dev system, would you
like to check it out first before I move it into the production system
(hopefully, you answer yes to this ;-) )?</font><br>
<font size="-1">2. Is it okay that I charge you 6 hours for this task
(even though I estimated 4)? This would include the time I take
to migrate things to your dev & production systems.</font><br>
<br>
<font size="-1">I'm going to think more about my estimate on the below
task (my original estimate was 2-3 days), but after missing my last
estimate by 50%, I want to understand EXACTLY what I need to do
(including testing). My original coding estimate was pretty
close, but I found some issues testing and had to go back and modify
the way I was outputting the message in the pop-up window.</font><br>
<br>
<font size="-1">I'll send you an estimate first thing tomorrow morning
regarding the below task.</font><br>
<font size="-1">Dave</font><br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-2"><b>"Rocklyn E.
Clarke" <rclarke@MIT.EDU></b></font><br>
<font size="-2">Sent by: MIT InfoPrint Manager System Administration
<IPM-SYS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU></font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-2">02/11/2002 03:31
PM</font><br>
<font size="-2">Please respond to MIT InfoPrint Manager System
Administration</font><br>
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To:
IPM-SYS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU</font><br>
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Subject: For IBM: Request
for New Web Interface Function Etc.</font><br>
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<font face="Times New Roman">Hello Dave,</font><br>
<br>
<font face="Times New Roman">We would like to have a component of the
web interface expanded in order to accomodate new
functionality.</font><br>
<br>
<font face="Times New Roman">As you know, the web interface currently
utilizes a user information database comprising the following
fields:</font><br>
<br>
<font face="Times New Roman">Kerberos Principal</font><br>
<font face="Times New Roman">Account Number</font><br>
<font face="Times New Roman">Building</font><br>
<font face="Times New Roman">Room Number</font><br>
<br>
<font face="Times New Roman">This database is used by both the web
interface, and the LPRng filter code to associate charge and delivery
information with submitted print jobs. The existing web
interface includes two web forms that interact with this
database:</font><br>
<br>
<font
face="Times New Roman"
>https://pillage.mit.edu/submission/job_submission.html</font><br>
<br>
<font
face="Times New Roman"
>https://pillage.mit.edu/accountinfo/accountinfo.html</font><br>
<br>
<font face="Times New Roman">We want to have this database enhanced so
that it will support the following two new functions:</font><br>
<br>
<font face="Times New Roman">1. Allow help desk staff to lookup
and modify information for another user</font><br>
<font face="Times New Roman">2. Allow the database to store data
for selected print queues (i.e. logical</font><br>
<font face="Times New Roman"> destinations) as well
as for kerberos principals</font><br>
<br>
<font face="Times New Roman">Towards this end, we want the database
itself to be enhanced to include the following fields (new fields are
prefixed with "N"):</font></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><br></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font
face="Times New Roman">N Type of
record (e.g. "USERID",
"QUEUE")</font></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font
face="Times New Roman">- Key Value
(i.e. kerberos principal or queue name)</font></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font
face="Times New Roman">- Account
Number (should be renamed "Cost Object" in web
forms)</font><br>
<font face="Times New Roman">-
Building</font><br>
<font face="Times New Roman">-
Room Number</font><br>
<font face="Times New Roman">N
Timestamp (yyyy-mm-dd-hh.mm.ss) of last update to the
record</font><br>
<font face="Times New Roman">N
Kerberos Principal that submitted the update</font><br>
<br>
<font face="Times New Roman">We also want an additional web form which
system administrators or help desk staff can use to create or update
records. This form would have to be different from the
"Account Info" form because it would have to provide space
for entering the type and key value fields. The two existing web
forms should continue to work in the same way that they currently do.
I expect that we will need to have further discussions in order
to fully flesh out this request.</font><br>
<br>
<font face="Times New Roman">Please begin reviewing the code to
determine if you need any additional information from us in order to
implement this enhancement. We would also appreciate a
preliminary estimate of the amount of billable time that this
enhancement will require and when you could have it
completed?</font><br>
<br>
<br>
<font face="Times New Roman">Thanks,</font><br>
<font face="Times New Roman">Rocklyn</font></blockquote>
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