[2043] in Enterprise Print Delivery Team
Re: Queue Name
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Huxley, Bil)
Tue Dec 11 11:25:13 2001
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:25:57 -0500
To: "Lynne E. Durland" <durland@MIT.EDU>,
David F Lambert <LAMBERT@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>,
"Lynne E. Durland" <durland@MIT.EDU>, R3-Print@MIT.EDU,
Enterprise Printing Delivery Project Team <printdel@MIT.EDU>
From: "Huxley, Bil" <huxley@MIT.EDU>
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Lynne,
Thanks :)
Bil
At 12/11/2001 10:10 AM -0500, Lynne E. Durland wrote:
>Bil,
>
>I will answer one of your questions. Yes IPM can handle flash forms and I
>have done some preliminary work to get the MITSIS flash forms moved over
>and tested. Other flash forms currently used on VM will be handled on a
>case by case basis when the requests come in.
>
>Lynne
>
>At 08:14 AM 12/11/2001, Huxley, Bil wrote:
>>Hi Dave,
>>
>>Everything you say here comes as a surprise to me, unless you mean to
>>suggest, say, a year from now. Implementing EP1 was a PrintDel
>>initiative based on a CAO request and OCP hardware funding and intended
>>as a pilot. Migrating EP1 to IPM was a PrintDel
>>initiative. Implementing a 'general' print queue which utilizes the IP60
>>printer was an R3-Print request which seemed to be less than
>>"enthusiastically embraced" by PrintDel. You'll recall that we felt it
>>would be advantageous to implement this prior to implementing something
>>as complicated and specialized as the GL Summary Statement & DTR printing.
>>
>>Now I think I'm hearing that you are considering substituting DC1 for EP1
>>(effectively). Please consider the fact that you could in fact do this
>>relatively transparently (to the desktop anyway) by simply telling IPM to
>>direct EP1 jobs to the IP60 rather than the HP 8100. Such a switch may
>>have an impact on job delivery/availability and/or the look of the output
>>and those are certainly important considerations, but those are implicit
>>in your suggestion anyway.
>>
>>We (CAO) just made a nontrivial investment to install KLP on all the
>>CAO-Reporting desktops then went through again to install the EP1-IPM
>>queue. Each time this kind of work needs to be done it requires shutting
>>down the User's applications and logging them off in order to log in as
>>an administrator - it's disruptive to folk's daily work and
>>responsibilities even if you don't consider the efforts of CAOTech.
>>
>>Please consider my original question :) If 'EP' (Enterprise Printing) is
>>considered an inadequate naming convention, why wasn't this addressed or
>>at least discussed in conjunction with very, very recent EP1
>>migration? I'm confused if y'all consider this a big issue for EP60 and
>>a non-issue for EP1. I also do not understand why R3-Print was not
>>informed of this issue until I asked why EP60 wasn't mentioned in your
>>IT-Delivery report.
>>
>>I'd also like to offer a perception that IS may not run the only "Data
>>Center" at MIT. This names assumes IS (it reflects an IS-centric point
>>of view, if you would).
>>
>>John Curry's five themes come to mind as I make this inquiry again :)
>>Client Orientation (and working together to streamline processes)
>>Collaboration (boundary blind processes and open sharing of common
>>information
>>Sustainability (rising to higher standards)
>>Accountability (clarity or roles and responsibilities)
>>Professionalism (best practices in many areas)
>>You mentioned 'forms'. As far as I know, the current EP1 service does
>>not provide for forms or stock (three hole punch only I believe). I've
>>asked before if IPM will support flash forms but never got an
>>answer. Clearly there is some forms (stock) handling for IPM because
>>you've defined queues with names like 'Central-Letter', 'Central-3hole'
>>and 'Central-Archive' (Wow there are 31 "printers" defined on Pillage
>>currently!).
>>
>>My apologies if I haven't been listening and that's the cause of my
>>confusion and lack of understanding :)
>> Bil
>>
>>At 12/10/2001 06:20 PM -0500, David F Lambert wrote:
>>>Hi Bil,
>>>
>>>Actually we may want to eliminate EP1 altogether at some point. Our
>>>primary goal initially for EP1 was to move it as transparently as possible
>>>from CAO's perspective. Since we can handle PS output on the IP60 printers,
>>>we could just point output there with new or existing logical destination/
>>>queue names. I think it makes sense to minimize and/or eliminate
>>>different queues which basically do the same thing (forms, handling, etc.)
>>>
>>>Some duplication is required now due to accommodating SAP's inability
>>>to use klpr. So, at some point you can expect EP1's name to change or
>>>be replaced with a queue which performs similarly.
>>>
>>>Hope that helps...
>>>
>>>-Dave
>>>
>>>On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 18:04:35 -0500 Bil said:
>>> >Hi,
>>> >
>>> >Doesn't this imply that you would want to rename EP1 too?
>>> >
>>> >Confused,
>>> > Bil
>>> >
>>> >At 12/10/2001 01:47 PM -0500, Lynne E. Durland wrote:
>>> >>Greetings,
>>> >>
>>> >>Dave Lambert and Theresa met briefly last week to discuss the name
>>> >>EP60/EP62 for the new general queue for SAP central printing. Dave
>>> >>expressed concern that EP60 was not as descriptive as it might
>>> >>be. Theresa agreed to entertain other proposed names. In our printdel
>>> >>this morning we came up with DC1 and DC12 for the names. The DC standing
>>> >>for Data Center. Our current goal is to get this new queue
>>> implemented by
>>> >>Friday.
>>> >>
>>> >>Please let un know if the proposed new name is acceptable.
>>> >>
>>> >>Thanks
>>> >>
>>> >>Lynne
>>> >>Lynne E. Durland
>>> >>Information Systems
>>> >>Database Services
>>> >>W91-109
>>> >>O: 617-258-5857
>>> >>C: 617-293-8091
>>> >>H: KB1FEM
>>> >>
>>> >>"When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so
>>> >>long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened
>>> >>for us."
>>> >>
>>> >> --Helen Keller
>>> >
>>> >
>
>Lynne E. Durland
>Information Systems
>Database Services
>W91-109
>O: 617-258-5857
>C: 617-293-8091
>H: KB1FEM
>
>"When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so
>long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened
>for us."
>
> --Helen Keller
