[2009] in Enterprise Print Delivery Team
Re: EP1 and the web page
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lynne E. Durland)
Fri Dec 7 14:12:59 2001
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Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 14:08:08 -0500
To: "Huxley, Bil" <huxley@MIT.EDU>, mbryan@MIT.EDU
From: "Lynne E. Durland" <durland@MIT.EDU>
Cc: printdel@MIT.EDU, CAOTech@MIT.EDU, "Regan, Theresa M" <tregan@MIT.EDU>
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Bil,
I will make some comments here then intersperse the rest after your
questions. The printdel team is till working on implementing htaccess
access controls on the web pages to give us the ability to "fine tune" what
people can see or do on the web pages. I can talk with Dave and the team
on Monday about interim access.
You and Mike should be able to see the accounting page. This will have a
pages completed, and for ep1 it appears to be less accurate.
At 09:52 AM 12/6/2001 -0500, Huxley, Bil wrote:
>Hi Lynne,
>
>I'm at https://pillage.mit.edu/jobs/print_jobs.html now and my list seems
>to come up empty no matter what I do, as it was yesterday afternoon.
>
>I just found that I could click on 'Retained Jobs' (which I don't think
>Mike had when he went to Pillage) and see some history. I found Mike's
>two requests to EP1 (automated refreshes made this more difficult).
>
>When we met in August we touched upon 'Local Support' needs for CAOTech to
>better support IPM users. Have y'all come up with any strategies, issues,
>or goals in this regard? Is it possible to give CAOTech members access to
>Retain Jobs for CAO queues? In Moira APS admin rights are implemented by
>giving members of the list CAOPrint (currently == CAOTech) ACLs to all CAO
>queues. EP1 might not quite fit that model but if it's just access to
>Retained Jobs perhaps it's close enough :)
>
>I tried Owner=mbryan in 'Retained Jobs' and got a null list. I couldn't
>seem to undo that filter and get back to a full list except by going to
>another URL and then going Pillage again. Is there method to undo a
>filter? I also tried Destination=ep1 and got a null report with that too...
Unfortunately the filter at the top of the retained page is doing a
filtration of the print jobs page, so will come up empty. Using find under
the edit menu in netscape should allow you to find the entry more
quickly. Also the retained page is in the order of oldest to newest top to
bottom, the newest at the bottom.
>I'm making the following notes as an aid to myself so I can use the
>filters in the future. Value lists would be helpful, esp. for
>new/occasional users.
> * Name: is a document name such as "NewText Document.txt - Notepad",
> IPRR4MST.PDF, or "SAP-SF2 tregan/000OuIfB.SF2"
> * Owner: is an MIT Username (aka Kerberos Principle)
> * State: can have values 'Retained' and 'Resubmit' in the Retained
> report. What are the values in the Print Jobs report?
> * Destination: is a print queue name such as 'ep1' or 'glmp'
>Can wild characters be used in these filter values? Say, Name=*SF2*?
Yes wild characters work, but unfortunately as noted above it is looking at
the print jobs page rather than the retained job page.
>A note about 'Name'; it would appear that when EP12 is used the 'Name' is
>displaced by the string '(lpr_filter)'. Any way the real name could be
>preserved?
I defer to Rocklyn for the definite answer, but I believe this is a by
product of the work done to allow the bounce queue to work.
>Is there any chance these reports could include some measure of the size
>of a print request? Pages might be nice but raw bytes would probably be
>much more doable :)
>
>I also just tested two printouts from SAP (SF2 & PS1, Simplex & Duplex)
>and will check the output later this morning. I'm preparing an update to
>the EP1 & EP12 SAP Spool Device descriptions which specifies IPM in place
>of AFS.
>
>Thanks,
> Bil
>
>At 12/5/2001 02:12 PM -0500, Lynne E. Durland wrote:
>>Greetings,
>>
>>I tried to call Mike, but he was not there.
>>
>>Since this printer is postscript, and is not requiring setup for print
>>jobs, changing paper, settings etc, the jobs going to this printer will
>>not be held, but will simply be "passing through" IPM and going directly
>>to the printer. So if it is a relatively small print job, by the time
>>the job is submitted and the web page is accessed the job will have come
>>and gone and will not appear on the print jobs page.
>>
>>If several jobs, or a very large job is submitted, the job will remain on
>>the print jobs page longer and will be visible while it is still printing.
>>
>>
>>Bil, at the moment you have more privileges on the web pages than just
>>end user access, you can see the retained jobs page, if you look there
>>the job should be viewable there, after it has printed.
>>
>>Hope this helps.
>>
>>Lynne
>>
>>Lynne E. Durland
>>Information Systems
>>Database Services
>>W91-109
>>O: 617-258-5857
>>C: 617-293-8091
>>H: KB1FEM
>>
>>"When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so
>>long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened
>>for us."
>>
>> --Helen Keller
Lynne E. Durland
Information Systems
Database Services Team
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P:258-5857
E: durland@mit.edu
H: 603-421-0940
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