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Re: what the...?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (The Macomber Family)
Mon Jan 24 23:57:34 2000

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From: The Macomber Family <artmacom@micron.net>
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To: Rhett Nichols <krhettn@MIT.EDU>
Cc: Elle Thomas <tundraflies@webname.com>, peace2@MIT.EDU,
        maisiechui@hotmail.com, auyeung@MIT.EDU, jbarrera@MIT.EDU, zan@MIT.EDU
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Hi Elle and Rhett!

Felix can update you on the overall scope of this list.  Maisie asked me about
my thoughts on a couple of subjects and I shared.  Recently, the list has been
on gender issues, and it started, as I recall, during Clinton's airwar on
Kosovo.  I hope you don't think me regressive for calling it Clinton's war, he
appears to take credit for it anyway.  I would be interested in what constitutes
regressivity, but, if you are not into sharing, its no big deal.

In any case, I apologize if I sound regressive, there are definite links between
women's freedom and rights and property rights issues, most clearly in current
discussions about abortion rights.  I am not sure what your perspective is
regarding women's ownership of their own bodies, but for us folks around pre-Roe
v. Wade, there is a definite tie-in to Big Brother and subjugation.  We won that
particular battle and there are more on the horizen.  I have never heard the
perspective that Christianity is positively linked to ownership and property -
any more or less than other religions.  This sounds as if it would be in
opposition to Christian women who describe themselves as feminists.
Interesting.

Wow.  I'm ready to listen.  And, it sounds as if you are on the right list,
although I am certainly NOT a Republican or swallowing their rhetoric, I am very
interested in women's issues.  You are right, that is the current topic,
although I hesitate to define "women's issues" as non-Republican issues - as
they could then be preceived as only "Democrat" issues - or some other political
party.  I mean, as long as they have political consequences, they are political
issues - guess it best to leave it there.  Maisie simply asked, so I let her
know.

Welcome to Peace2!

-Art
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Rhett Nichols wrote:

> Hello All
>
> >Hello Maisie, Art, et al.  I am by no means interested in limiting your
> >political dialogue. However, I am a bit perplexed at how this conversation
> >found its way into my email. Far as I can tell, when I wrote to be included
> >on future MIT events regarding feminism, I got put onto a larger list.
>
> i am in a similair situation. i went to the Sexism At MIT panel
> discussion, and was really interested in the issue, and got on this
> mailing list, which seems to be about a lot of other things as well.
>
> I don't know who has the list of names collected at the meeting, but I
> would suggest making a smaller list of those names limited to that
> topic, so those of us that would like to, can go ahead and remove
> ourselves from peace2.
>
> Thanks,
> Rhett


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