[1535] in peace2
What a Load of... (Re: Mines, Like Death, Are Just Another
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Prez H. Cannady)
Mon Mar 4 21:09:37 2002
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Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 21:09:05 -0500
To: Nida Rizwan Farid <farida@mit.edu>, Sanjay Basu <sanjayb@mit.edu>,
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From: "Prez H. Cannady" <revprez@MIT.EDU>
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...horse shit. What, you think if you attack a general institution
through an obscure backdoor you'll avoid criticism? I sincerely
doubt you know more about landmines than what you've read in a
pamphet.
At 07:31 PM 3/4/02, Nida Rizwan Farid wrote
>Here are just some of the facts that I dug up that relate to US use or
>landmines.
Dug up, or copied off of ICBL's website?
>Maybe this will let you see that the reason the US population needs to get
>involved in clearing up the mess. Maybe because the US PLANTED A LARGE
>FRACTION OF THEM!!!
Nonsense. The vast majority of mines in the world are cheap little
$5 dollar affairs you can set with a 99 cent detonator. Not really
sexy but they get the job done. The second largest population consists of
Soviet vintage spread throughout the Third War. Last time I checked,
those leftist national liberation movements were your type of people.
> * The Convention on the Prohibition of the Use, Stockpiling,
> Production and Transfer of Anti-Personnel Landmines and on Their
> Destruction - The Mine Ban Treaty - entered into force on March 1, 1999.
> Over 137 countries have signed the Treaty including all of the European
> Nato allies. The United States, Russia, and China have not signed.
There are a lot of crackpot conventions the United States, Russia and China
have no part of. This is just one all three had the sence to agree to
reject. After all, there's this little thing called the DMZ, and the DPRKs
haven't signed a peace treaty to date.
> * The United States has the fourth largest anti-personnel landmine
> arsenal in the world, with a stockpiled of approximately 11.2 million AP
> mines.
And?
> * Scatterables were first introduced by the United States during the
> Vietnam War. However, they had severe consequences for U.S. troops, who
> often found themselves retreating through their own, unmarked minefields.
> Nearly one-third of all U.S. casualties during the war were due to land
> mines deployed by U.S. troops themselves.
Thanks for the history lesson. It's nice to know
that ICBL's finally agreed on a number for US casualties
do to landmines, although I doublt you have any evidence
of the gross, wide-spread incompetence necessary to advance
forward and then retreat through your own minefield. I'll
trust you understand U.S. anti-mine capability has evolved
since then. You can learn more from FM-20-32 at the Army
TRADOC site and the weapons and their operation.
> * The Clinton Administration acknowledged that many mines remained
> deadly for decades, but it said they were a necessary part of US strategy
> on the Korean peninsula, where mines are sown along the border that
> separates the communist North from the democratic South.
States usually like to use non-self-destructing mines
to protect passes through which hostile armies poised
for invasion may use to route their mobile forces. It's
a very keen static defense. What's wrong with that?
Rev Prez
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