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RESULT: comp.security.gss-api passes 159:21

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mark James)
Mon Sep 16 09:14:00 1996

To: kerberos@MIT.EDU
Date: 15 Sep 1996 23:24:13 -0400
From: jamesm@dialogic.com (Mark James)

                                RESULT
        unmoderated group comp.security.gss-api passes 159:21

comp.security.gss-api -- 182 valid votes

 Yes  No  | 2/3 |>100 | Pass | Group
---- ---- | --- | --- | ---- | -------------------------------------------
 159   21 | Yes | Yes |  Yes | comp.security.gss-api

There were two abstentions and no invalid votes.

A five day discussion period follows this announcement.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the
moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly
thereafter.

Newsgroup line:
comp.security.gss-api	Generic Security Service Application Program Interface.

Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 12 September 1996.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Jonathan Kamens <jik@cam.ov.com>
Votetaker: Mark James <jamesm@dialogic.com>

RATIONALE: comp.security.gss-api

Use of the GSS-API and recognition of its status as an emerging
standard are growing.  However, the only forum currently devoted to
discussion of the GSS-API is the cat-ietf@MIT.Edu mailing list.  This
topic merits a newsgroup in addition to the mailing list for a number
of reasons, including:

* The mailing list's charter is oriented towards the standards
  process, rather than towards discussion among users and implementors
  of GSS-API.  Furthermore, the mailing list's traffic does not
  exclusively concern GSS-API.  It will be useful to have a forum
  whose traffic concerns only the GSS-API, and whose charter is
  oriented towards discussion among users and implementors.

* Many people consider newsgroups preferable to mailing lists.

* The traffic on the mailing list is sufficient to justify the
  creation of a newsgroup.

* A recent week-long straw poll of whether people want such a
  newsgroup found almost 30 parties who were interested enough to
  respond to the survey.

* The newsgroup will serve as a forum for people to ask questions
  about and discuss the usage of the API without getting involved in
  the high-level design discussions which are prevalent on the mailing
  list.  This is already needed since questions about the API are
  already turning up in other newsgroups, and it will become more and
  more useful as usage of the API becomes more widespread.

The last item above is not meant to imply that high-level discussions
of the API will be inappropriate in the newsgroup.  However, although
they will certainly be considered on-topic in the group, it seems
likely that (a) a much larger proportion of the articles in the group
than on the mailing list will be concerned with basic discussion of,
and questions about, the API, and (b) people who are genuinely
interested in discussing and helping with future design of the API
will continue to do so primarily on the mailing list, since it is the
"official" mailing list of the IETF working group responsible for the
GSS-API.

CHARTER: comp.security.gss-api

The comp.security.gss-api newsgroup is intended for discussion of the
Generic Security Service Application Program Interface (GSS-API),
including mechanism- and implementation-independent discussion of the
GSS-API, discussion of specific GSS-API mechanisms and
implementations, and questions about the design and usage of the
GSS-API.

Discussion about underlying authentication technologies which is not
specifically related to the use of those technologies with the GSS-API
should take place in other newsgroups.

END CHARTER.

VOTE LISTS:

YES votes were received from the following people:

alanc@ocf.berkeley.edu (Alan Coopersmith)
alexa@tcsi.com (Alexander Aizman)
and@sap-ag.de (Inga Andreasson)
apsteing@nibble.uchicago.edu (Andrew P. Steingruebl)
archer@hsc.fr (Vincent Archer)
arogers@vnet.ibm.com
arunr@cp10.es.xerox.com (Arun Ramanujapuram)
av0@cise.ufl.edu (Anek Vorapanya)
Barry.Byrne@win0115.wins.icl.co.uk
barton@dstc.qut.edu.au (Douglas Barton)
bcn@ISI.EDU (Clifford Neuman)
bearra@usaa.com (Randy Bear)
bef@nwu.edu (Bruce Foster)
Bernard.BIFFI@ed.nce.sita.int (Bernard BIFFI)
billl@access.digex.net (Bill Livingston)
birchall@email.njin.net (Dan Shag Birchall)
bjv@herbison.com (B.J. Herbison)
blandahl@mnw.net (bill Landahl)
blizzard@odin.nyser.net (Christopher Blizzard)
BOSTROM_GREG@tandem.com
broman@np.nosc.mil (Vincent Broman)
bwilmes@primenet.com (Bob Wilmes)
C.Ridd@imc.exec.nhs.uk (Chris Ridd)
camphausen@fokus.gmd.de (Ingmar Camphausen)
cantor.2@osu.edu (Scott Cantor)
ccshag@cclabs.missouri.edu (Paul 'Shag' Walmsley)
champine@apollo.hp.com (Mark Champine)
charles_maxson@harvard.edu (Charles Maxson)
chiiwen@informix.com (Chiiwen Liou)
chopen@aventail.com
chris.liljenstolpe@ssds.com (Christopher Liljenstolpe)
ckk@pobox.com (Chris Koenigsberg)
cross@math.psu.edu (Dan Cross)
cward@netcom.com (Craig E. Ward)
darrenr@cyber.com.au (Darren Reed)
DAVER@cat.co.za (DAVE RITTEN)
dcoe@overlord.com (David Coe)
deangeli@austin.ibm.com
dennis.glatting@plaintalk.bellevue.wa.us (Dennis Glatting)
dhd@umich.edu (David H Detlefs)
djd@snaptech.com (Douglas J. Davenport)
dlm@cac.washington.edu (David L Miller)
dlmadse@pacbell.com (Daniel Madsen)
dms03@cs.uow.edu.au (Dhaval M Shah)
donmoe@ix.netcom.com (Don Moe)
dpassmor@sneakers.org (David Passmore)
dpj@noblenet.com (David Jablon)
dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu (Daniel S. Riley)
dwm@netans.com (Doug Maxey)
ed@ds9.sis.yorku.ca (Ed McCurdy)
efeustel@ida.org (Edward Feustel)
eichin@cygnus.com (Mark Eichin)
esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us (Eric S. Johansson)
fabio@access.com.au (Fabio Bastian)
fjg@apollo.hp.com (Frederic Gittler)
Frank.Koehntopp@rm.sni.de (Frank Koehntopp)
frankd@cam.ov.com (Frank D'Urso)
geer@openmarket.com (Dan Geer)
geisler@mcs.anl.gov (Jonathan Geisler)
Gene_Hilborn_at_HAN__CW2.SED01.CSC@cscmail.csc.com (Gene Hilborn at HAN_CW2)
georgeb@cmiu.bt.co.uk (Bruno GEORGES)
georgesr@wrq.com
Guangxing.Li.0501756@nortel.co.uk (Guangxing (G.) Li)
gw@cray.com (Grace Wiechman)
hemma@osmosys.incog.com (Hemma Prafullchandra)
J.Lebastard@frcl.bull.fr (Jacques Lebastard)
jamesrho@freenet.columbus.oh.us (James Rhodes)
jdecarlo@mitre.org (John DeCarlo)
jec@isoft.com (Jonathan Chinitz)
jgu@kmd.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F8rn?= Guldberg)
jik@cam.ov.com (Jonathan I. Kamens)
jim.grier@ov.com (James R. Grier)
jjhl3@fel.tno.nl (Joost Meijers)
jk@esperance.com (Joel Klecker)
Johnron@cris.com
jra@cygnus.com (Jeremy Allison)
jrj@access.digex.net (Joseph R. Justice)
jrr@apollo.hp.com (John Rousseau)
jsdy@cais.cais.com (Joseph S. D. Yao)
jtonsing@mikom.csir.co.za (Johann Tonsing)
jtruitt@nando.net (Jim Truitt)
Juan.Alday@enst-bretagne.fr (Juan ALDAY)
julesd@fwb.gulf.net (Jules Dubois)
kst01@cs.uow.edu.au (Kok Seng Tan)
kurn_david@tandem.com (David Kurn)
kwc@citi.umich.edu (Kevin Coffman)
L.Rouilhac@frcl.bull.fr (Laurent ROUILHAC)
layhua@staff.singnet.com.sg (Low Lay Hua)
linn@cam.ov.com (John Linn)
LucienVE@ix.netcom.com (Lucien Van Elsen)
lyalc@cba.com.au (lyal collins)
marantz@klinzhai.rutgers.edu (Roy Marantz)
marc@cygnus.com (Marc Horowitz)
marcvh@aventail.com (Marc VanHeyningen)
mark@isp.homestar.net (Mark Atwood)
mdias@iis.com.br (Marlon Dias)
mguesdo@worldnet.fr (Manuel Guesdon)
mike-noel@uiowa.edu (Michael Noel)
milman@singsing.austin.ibm.com (Ivan Milman)
mittaux@cenatls.cena.dgac.fr (Gerard MITTAUX-BIRON)
mmichael@knowhwy1.es.hac.com (Mark O Michael)
moret@atc_pro.grenoble.hp.com (Christophe Moret)
MrFlyTrap1@aol.com
ms@gf.org (Michael Smith)
msoysal@mistik.express.net (Mustafa Soysal MS57)
MyRacoon@aol.com
mythily@tc4hq.cmc.stph.net
NSYSRAM@gwgate.bas.ncsu.edu (Richard A. Merwin)
ollivier.robert@eurocontrol.fr (Ollivier Robert)
orchard@eceserv1.ece.wisc.edu (Bruce Orchard)
otto@syllogic.nl (Otto Moerbeek)
pace@cs.ucdavis.edu (James E. Pace)
paxil@interlog.com (Paxil)
pete@diggle.demon.co.uk (Pete Bennett)
plipp@iaik.tu-graz.ac.at (Peter Lipp)
pmelo@inescca.inescc.pt (Paulo Melo)
prenda@nyc.pipeline.com (PAUL RENDA)
pshuang@sgi.com (Ping Huang)
pvirkkul@iki.fi (Petri Virkkula)
quodling@gil.com.au (Peter Quodling)
R2BKM@vm1.cc.uakron.edu (Belete Muturo)
ralf@julia.de (Ralf Baechle)
ranous@hpindavg.cup.hp.com (Alex Ranous)
renato.ghica@citicorp.com (Renato Ghica)
rfm@eng.sun.com (Rich McAllister)
rgc1@po6.rv.unisys.com (Clouse, Roland G RV)
rick@bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
rmarti@cylink.com (Ram Marti)
roman@portal.stwing.upenn.edu (Roman Gollent)
ronw@lanl.gov (Ron Wilkins)
rootbeer@teleport.com (Tom Phoenix)
roses@capecod.net (Dolores Scaldini)
rsc@advanced.org (R. S. Camm)
s05@uow.edu.au (Willy Susilo)
schemers@stanford.edu
schimpf@gradient.com (Brian Schimpf)
schleip@sbu.ac.uk (Paul Schleifer)
shap.wolf@asu.edu (Shapard Wolf)
shields@crosslink.net (Michael Shields)
soni@informix.com (Ajay Soni)
sopwith@dilbert.redhat.com (Elliot Lee)
spirit@wildwood.demon.co.uk (Mike Horrell)
stellay@informix.com (Stella Yan)
stephen.farrell@sse.ie (Stephen Farrell)
stidd@parc.xerox.com (John Stidd)
stuart@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz (Stuart Yeates)
sukan@rahul.net (Sukan Makmuri)
tabuki@rad.cadix.co.jp (T. Tabuki - CADIX Inc.)
taweil@ucs.usc.edu (Ta-Wei Li)
TWN1@trpo4.tr.unisys.com (Nurse, Thomas W TR)
ukirwat@nlevdpsb.snads.philips.nl (Rob Waters.)
unterrei@nm.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Gertraud Unterreitmeier)
uri@watson.ibm.com (Uri Blumenthal)
walko@cadlab.tu-berlin.de (Tobias Walkowiak)
walrus@ans.net (michael shiplett)
weber@iez.com (Rolf Weber)
william@netpros.net (Bill Halverson)
Xiaohong.X.Jin@telia.se (Xiaohong Jin)
zed@cjnetworks.com (Ned Fleming)

NO votes were received from the following people:

asbjorn@cph.dk (Asbjorn Hojmark)
bgw@xcert.com (Bruce Woodward)
booda@datasync.com (Martin H. Booda)
bwk@cyberstore.ca (Bruce Knipe)
csaamw@urc.tue.nl (Michiel Wijers)
des@cyberstore.ca (Greg Desaulniers)
dfulton169@aol.com
jrm@best.com (John MacWilliamson)
kenh@cmf.nrl.navy.mil (Ken Hornstein)
naddy@mips.pfalz.de (Christian Weisgerber)
nick@cimio.co.uk (Nick Waterman)
olav@viking.mv.com (Olav Nieuwejaar)
patl@lcs.mit.edu (Patrick J. LoPresti)
patr@x509.com (Patrick Richard)
pendragon@galactica.it (Flavio Macchietto)
peter@verisign.com (Peter Williams)
stainles@bga.com (Dwight Brown)
tlawson@amug.org (Todd C. Lawson)
tonys@wt.net (Tony Storz)
wahlscb@cat.com (Chuck Wahlstrom)
wakelyn@pinn.net (Tom Wakelyn)

Abstentions were received from the following people:

Gemfield@cris.com (Gemfield)
piper@tgv.com (Derrell Piper)

-- 
Mark James  <jamesm@dialogic.com>

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