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Re: DCE and terminal servers

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Chris Cowan)
Mon Jun 10 15:17:41 1996

To: kerberos@MIT.EDU
Date: 10 Jun 1996 13:47:04 -0500
From: cc@mantis.austin.ibm.com (Chris Cowan)
Reply-To: cc@austin.ibm.com

>>>>> "Rich" == Rich Salz <rsalz@osf.org> writes:

    Rich> In <4mvnp2$kde@news.fsu.edu> houle@zeppo (Art Houle) writes:
    >> Multiple other  
    >> terminal server vendors also support kerberos but to my knowledge none
    >> support DCE.

    Rich> You will probably be able to use your DCE security server as your Krb5
    Rich> server.  OSF has never tested this, but the Kerberos code is there and
    Rich> at least some folks have it working.  This will be tested and "guaranteed"
    Rich> in DCE 1.2.2.

I have been able to authenticate our Xyplex terminal server off of an
IBM DCE 2.1 Registry.  The details were posted by Jeff Earickson to
comp.soft-sys.dce in Nov 1995.  However, changing passwords from the
Term Server using the normal K5 protocol doesn't quite work right.

This causes a few minor annoying problems:
- Some users have very little interaction with DCE and will probably 
  exclusively use the Term Server interface for passwd maint.
- There's a bit of a boot strapping problem.   Obviously, you would want
  a policy to enforce passwd resets, strength, etc.   If I were an operations
  person trying to get in and my password expired, I wouldn't be able to
  reset.


    >> Please correct me if wrong, but kerberos only authenticates, does not 
    >> authorize and also uses the TCP/IP wire protocol.  DCE however does both 
    >> authentication and authorization and uses RPC on UDP (?) to exchange packets.

    Rich> I assume the Kerberized terminal server maps the krb-provided name as an
    Rich> index into the terminal server's authorization database.

    >> Any suggestions for a terminal server that can integrate in the DCE 
    >> environment is greatly apreciated.

    Rich> Short answer:  any Kerberos server will probably "just work."
    Rich> 	/r$

BTW, I am anxiously awaiting the DCE 1.2.2 functionality for K5 transparency.

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