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8/28 Meeting Minutes

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brian Murphy)
Thu Sep 4 12:14:57 2003

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Attending: Paul H. Joe K., Richard E. Jonathon W. Kerem, Chad D. Phil L. 
Oliver T, Brian M.


Documentation workflow - Kerem handed out proposed workflow and explained
Tim Brennen can go to Kakapo for consulting
Owners and authors
Auhtors write it.
Owners (teams)
send email to Tim or Kerem for updating documents
2-3 months to stabilize outline of documentation
TPS will then be maintainers
Elise Technical writer and publishing for web.  Will contact authors for 
clarification
Tech Writer will take care of style and format We should concentrate on content
Owner/Authors send mail to Kakapo with pointer to doc.
Kakapo has 5 days to review.
If no objections or revisions doc. accepted.
Add Elise and Tim to Kakapo list -Brian


Joe MSI List - Presentation

Centrally stored MSI Information

http://web.mit.edu/pismere/msilist/msilist.xml

XML version of Chad's list.
Security issues - wide open because need to be readable to domain users
Someone could take an MSI and use it on own machine.
Have the XML not include link for licensed sw.
Include sub fields under license-info field to indicate what type of license

XSL Template file converts into desired output style.
uses msxsl processor
use msilist as input file
uses CVS
Deployed via pismere locker in AFS

Pros - Free, extremely general, largely understood by application
uses simple text editor
revision control

Cons - We make the rules
difficult to learn, tedious to write (hard stuff only needs to be done 
once, easy to parrot)
Not widespread enough to be easily accessible by laypeople
Still at Version 1 - not perfect.
usually command line client
learning curve
some gotchas (filename capitalization/binary/text tags, ETC.)


Suggestion - style sheet for chad, make one to resemble swrt style sheet
Review SWRT installer for windows - Do we need to extend base schema.
Change MSI Information to MSI Author Information
Spruce of Sub-pages
IS Look and feel?
Joint style page top level
Single style page one level down
Someone should check MSI before making it available (Maybe Chad)
Paul/Joe/Jonathon will review SWRT pages.

NT Upgrade update:

-should List not be public?
Kerem, will provide prototype of list for review by team. 9/5
Audit and Budget being helped by DITR picking up the effort. Will migrate 
10/2. Richard Barry/Paul will contact Budget/Audit to make sure what there 
needs are and if they know how to accomplish
Will deliver time-line to Budget and Audit on what needs to be done in a 
couple of weeks.

Libraries - testing now, Waiting for IAP to cut over

ATIC Lab is next - They have expressed interest.
Kerem will have ATIC talk with Sam.

FSS - Moving well.

DUSP - Fully implemented for most part. Some issues remain.

Arch - Unsure how much work has been done by Dept. Chad trying to contact 
Client.

MechE - Started This morning

IS - BLT will be cutting over this week.

Proposal for central file server ready for next week. Isn't this what AFS 
is for?
Some people need more space. Professional service providers should be 
providing this service.

Options:
Migrate member into domain as File Server.
Set central IS File Server
AFS

There are some needs that are too large for AFS
NTFS can handle large files
Some Departments want local control
NTFS can get info from other non-domain machines.



Server 2003 - Can be member Server. Would IS put as much effort into 
Troubleshooting as 2000? Paul - yes, but it is a new product. Richard 
agrees would like some early adopters.

SP4 W2K status? With new AFS client have not seen any problems.Can be 
deployed by container admin for their machines but not to point of MSI 
deployed to all machines in domain. Will be discussed at containers admin 
meeting tomorrow.

MS03-026 Patch Has info been passed to net-security for them to put out 
right advisory.? Bob Mahoney has sent e-mail on how to patch machines safely.






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