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FW: Notes on the last kakapo meeting 12/04/03

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brian Murphy)
Thu Dec 18 08:47:20 2003

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My Apologies for not sending these notes out sooner. Also, at the bottom
is the list of Agenda items Richard had proposed. Given that we will be
meeting in just over an hour I would not expect that we can determine
what topics  belong with Kakapo and which ones should be handed off to
other teams. So, over the next couple of weeks please review the list
and provide feedback.

Thank you Richard for capturing these notes at the last meeting....Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Edelson [mailto:redelson@MIT.EDU] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:15 PM
To: Brian Murphy
Subject: Notes on the last kakapo meeting 12/04/03




Some notes on the last kakapo meeting 12/04/03:

Tom Coveney reports he is working with LFMSDM and WAC regarding new 
deployments to win.mit.edu

Phil discussed the current state of the External Windows Review Report
and 
some of it's findings. He will distribute an on-line copy to the team.

Richard has written a list of proposed agenda items for kakapo, which
was 
reviewed by Phil and others present. Phil's suggestion was to distribute

the list to the team for comments regarding which items were in the
scope 
of kakapo and which might just be feedback we could be providing another

team. Some items were regarding drafting SLA's, Phil mentioned we have a

person who specializes in this SLA's who we should work with.

MechE will be expanding it's win.mit.edu deployment, Chad will be in 
contact with them on an ongoing basis.

We discussed Windows statistics in a number of contexts. Tom Coveney is 
collecting information on existing NT 4 domains and their plans to
migrate 
to Windows 2000. He says about one third of the migrations are in some 
state of progress, some large departments plan to migrate to independent

domains, but the majority of departments seem to prefer to join 
win.mit.edu. Chad said he would work with Tom to continue to gather this

data. Chad working on some usage stats for Academic Computing customers 
within win.mit.edu. Pismere team is also doing some usage stats 
development. Phil suggested that kakapo should be bringing all this data

together.

Sidney Pacific requested adding an athena machine and offered to convert
a 
Windows machine for the purpose, Phil noted that this was outside of 
kakapo's  scope being strictly a budget issue impacting athena clusters
and 
would be followed up on appropriately.

Last week content was deleted accidentally from the 
/is/topics/windows/server/ website. It was noted that a staging site was

not being used to update content. Phil said he would speak with Jane
White 
to see that a staging directory is implemented for content updates.

Closing week: Chad plans to shutdown some of the Windows clusters due to

possible power interruptions during this time. All domain infrastructure

services will remain running. Next week kakapo will draft a message to
be 
sent via email regarding the closing week.

The helpdesk asked how to determine who is the admin contact of a
machine 
within a win.mit.edu container. It can be found via the following
commands:

	stella hostname -lcn	Will output the name of the container
the machine 
resides in
	mitch -i container name  Will output info on the container
including the 
admin contact list

Brian said he would also poll the helpdesk for more technical
information 
they feel they need. They also asked how they should track bug status.

The Pismere team is closing down, no update on details yet.


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Proposed Agenda items:

Some of these may overlap with First Contact, but that's not necessarily
a 
bad thing. The idea here would be for one or two people within the
kakapo 
group to take some of the proposed agenda as action items. They would
write 
a draft to be presented to the entire group for review.

1). SLA's for win.mit.edu customers. General SLA for the service and 
possibly some more specific ones for some customers.

2). Event Management: Response times, Levels of events, Escalation

3). Change Management: Patching, time windows, notification policies, 
testing criteria

4). Roles of support groups

5). Software distribution: web, msi's

6). Application support: Enterprise apps, Desktop apps

7). Release Engineering

8). Documentation

9). Support Model

10). Scope of central domain, purpose of independent domains

11). Evaluation: Review of new Windows service offerings / extended
services

12). Security: Model/distribution. How proactive should IS be. can we 
provide more granular choices to customers. Review of processes, i.e.
how 
patches are evaluated.

13). Migration status




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