[8379] in Info-AFS_Redistribution
RE: Backups using commercial products
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Neulinger, Nathan R.)
Tue Jan 2 17:30:28 2001
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From: "Neulinger, Nathan R." <nneul@umr.edu>
To: "'Mitch Collinsworth'" <mitch@ccmr.cornell.edu>,
Earl R Shannon
<Earl_Shannon@ncsu.edu>
Cc: info-afs@transarc.com,
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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 16:06:41 -0600
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What I wonder is - how hard would it be to access the contents of an AFS
volume from a file server, without going through AFS itself - i.e. by direct
file access - sortof a really fast 'vos dump' equivalent.
-- Nathan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mitch Collinsworth [mailto:mitch@ccmr.cornell.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 3:32 PM
> To: Earl R Shannon
> Cc: info-afs@transarc.com
> Subject: Re: Backups using commercial products
>
>
>
> On Tue, 2 Jan 2001, Earl R Shannon wrote:
>
> > We are wanting to improve our backups here at NCSU and are looking
> > at various ways to do it, including commercial products.
> > Are any of you using products such as Budtool or ADSM/Tivoli, etc.?
>
> From what I've been able to learn, there are people using both of
> the above, as well as a new-ish product called TiBS from Teradactyl
> (www.teradactyl.com). Incidentally, if it's actually possible to
> acquire Budtool at this point I'd like to know how. It _seems_ to be
> one of those things you can use if you got it when it was available,
> but you can't get it anywhere today.
>
>
> > Something that might can happen now that AFS has been opened sourced
> > is an AFS aware tar and or dump command, ie, one that keeps track of
> > acl's on a directory. I really think things would improve for us if
> > we could stream data to tape without having to access the database
> > servers. Yes, other means of maintaining some form of a
> backup database
> > would be needed, but Arla combined with an AFS tar or afsdump
> > ( to coin a word ) would probably do the trick nicely.
>
> What I'm interested in doing is adding an AFS backup mechanism to
> Amanda (www.amanda.org). I've been thinking along the lines of using
> 'vos dump' to actually get the data out of the fileservers, but I'm
> certainly open to other possible solutions such an afsdump if that's
> something that's doable and especially if it's faster. Would you be
> interested in collaborating with us on this project?
>
> -Mitch
>
