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In-Reply-To: <199712131055.KAA00967@server.eternity.org> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 10:27:22 -0800 To: Adam Back <aba@dcs.ex.ac.uk> From: Steve Schear <schear@lvdi.net> Cc: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net Reply-To: Steve Schear <schear@lvdi.net> I disagree that the best way to implement hashcash is solely via the SMTP= mechanism. =20 Almost any efficient hashcash mechanism will require some sort of history= file, or "invited list," to allow mail lists and those we have corresponded= with to continue to do so w/i having to supply hashcash each time. This= list contains information which might have privacy implications and so= should not be stored at the ISP, which can be forced to reveal such info= w/o the knowledge of the client. If 'open' list policies were changed so that anyone could post if they= supplied enough hashcash for each mailing list recipient for their first 1= or 2 posts, and thereafter no longer needed to supply hashcash (sort of= minimum reputation capital), it might eliminate hit-and-run or throw-away= account SPAMers without offering too high a hurdle to new or infrequent pos= ters. Since most popular email clients allow plug-ins (e.g. Eudora) or extensions= via Java/ActiveX, providing hashcash functionality via a plug-in and the= java generators you propose would provide a simple mechanism to test its= effectiveness w/o needing to involve the IETF. The shortcoming of a= plug-in approach is that few newbies will know of it or install it and will= therefore have to wait till its built into the new release of whatever= client they use or until some or all of the features are supplied by their= ISP, allowing those calling regulation to continue to blow their horns. = However, if after a successful cypherpunk beta we could get the major email= client companies (Netscape, M$ and Qualcomm) to include our plug-ins with= all their new updates and offer them for free download from their Web= sites, it could quickly steal the CAUCE folk's thunder. --Steve
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