[91440] in Cypherpunks
Re: Censorial leftists (Was: Interesting article)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul Spirito)
Fri Dec 5 10:52:30 1997
From: berezina@qed.net (Paul Spirito)
To: Jim Burnes <jim.burnes@ssds.com>
Cc: "J. Lasser" <jon@lasser.org>, "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@invweb.net>,
Jim Burnes <jim.burnes@ssds.com>, James Love <love@cptech.org>,
Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>, fight-censorship@vorlon.mit.edu,
cypherpunks@toad.com
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 14:42:05 GMT
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971204135130.369D-100000@is-chief>
Reply-To: berezina@qed.net (Paul Spirito)
On Thu, 4 Dec 1997 17:22:23 -0700 (MST), Jim Burnes wrote:
>In either case, the act of buying and selling things is the ultimate
>expression of free association/assembly. I voluntarily associate
>with the guy who makes my pizza, builds my car, mows my law etc.
Really? I avoid associating with those who mow my laws. Ha ha.
Seriously, I've never lived in Sweden or Singapore -- if I do, I'll get =
back
to the list on which I prefer -- but I'm troubled by the tendency of
Libertarians to err on the side of big business fetishism rather than =
civil
liberties. Both are part of the Doctrine, of course*, but I often hear =
them
argue that wild-west capitalism inevitably leads to political freedom -- =
so,
not to worry -- but rarely that political freedom invariably leads to
laissez-faire capitalism (so, not to worry).=20
You might say that the latter is NOT TRUE. Well, right-o, but neither is =
the
former. Economic progress under a fascist regime leads inevitably to
political freedom? You guys actually make this argument.=20
Paul
*Yes, Libertarians criticize corporate welfare, but just because it =
corrupts
the notion that a person's entire worth can be summarized in a stock
portfolio.
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