[91190] in Cypherpunks
Re: Hospitality for the Home and Office Invaders
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tim May)
Mon Dec 1 17:08:29 1997
In-Reply-To: <tw7btz651cu.fsf@tana.mit.edu>
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 13:18:33 -0700
To: Ryan Lackey <rdl@mit.edu>, cypherpunks@sirius.infonex.com
From: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
Reply-To: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
At 10:53 PM -0700 11/26/97, Ryan Lackey wrote:
>I actually disagree with you on this. I consider the government to
>be fully accountable to everyone, and thus forced to endure any kind of
>protest such as this. Or whatever other form of protest you believe is
>appropriate, given the government's level of responsiveness to citizens,
>and whether you are protesting a violation of the constitution/basic rights.
It is not the _government_ which is being forced to "endure" protests...it
is the owners of the property being invaded and held hostage. (Whether an
office building rented out to various tenants, or a home, or whatever.)
(That the tenant in this case was a U.S. congresscritter and his staff
makes no difference, as I see it. The protestors were trespassing, and they
terrorized the staff. And, in any case, very similar protests have been
mounted against defense contracting corporations, e.g., Lockheed. Whatever
one thinks of Lockheed, their property in indisputably theirs. The protest
group which destroyed a multimillion dollar satellite, and admitted it, but
then claimed "poverty." Well, they should be working off their debt for the
next several decades.... Any judge who would not impose justice should
himself be subjected to dire sanctions.)
It is the function (one of the few legitimate ones) for the police to
remove trespassers with all due speed. It is not the job of the police to
"endure" sit-ins, invasions, and other trespasses. Nor is it the job of
police to stand idly by as homosexual activists shut down major bridges and
freeways. I say squash a few of the "gays" with trucks and maybe the rest
of the simpering bunch will get the message.
If and when the police decide it _is_ their job to stand idly by while a
protest group occupies an office building or shopping center or home or
whatever, then the citizens will have to take the law into their own hands.
As I said before, I'd consider the firing up of my Stihl chainsaw to be
adequate warning for the "protestors" to unlink their arms and leave
immediately. (With my civil lawsuit for damages and hassles to be filed
upon their departure. And, one hopes, their arrest by the wimpy cops who
decided to wait them out.)
--Tim May
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