[90798] in Cypherpunks
Re: Report on UN conference on Internet and racism
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jon Galt)
Sun Nov 23 20:04:50 1997
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 18:38:16 -0500 (EST)
From: Jon Galt <jongalt@pinn.net>
To: Mikhael Frieden <mikhaelf@mindspring.com>
cc: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>, "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@invweb.net>,
Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>,
Peter Herngaard <pethern@inet.uni2.dk>,
fight-censorship@vorlon.mit.edu, cypherpunks@toad.com
In-Reply-To: <3.0.16.19971123050057.3ac79780@pop.mindspring.com>
Reply-To: Jon Galt <jongalt@pinn.net>
On Sun, 23 Nov 1997, Mikhael Frieden wrote:
> At 08:12 PM 11/18/97 -0700, Tim May wrote:
> >At 10:34 PM -0700 11/18/97, Mikhael Frieden wrote:
> >>At 06:53 PM 11/18/97 -0600, William H. Geiger III wrote:
>
(Geiger)
> >>>I think that there is plenty of case law of extending constutional
> >>>protections to non-citizens. One that comes to mind were the rulings
> >>>against California inwhich the courts ruled the they were obligated to
> >>>provide schooling and social services to illegal aliens (a really fucked
> >>>rulling IMNSHO but if some good can come out of it no sense not making use
> >>>of it).
>
(Frieden)
> >> In a much more fundamental sense, if they were not given
> >>constitutional protections they really could be rounded up and bussed
> >>across the border.
>
(May)
> >And what would be wrong with this?
>
(Frieden)
> Not a damned thing. While in this country they are in the act of
> committing a crime.
And who is it that gets to decide what is a "crime" and what is not? The
politicos, the bureaucrats, the hoodlums in DC and elsewhere who think
they have the right to run the lives of everybody else.
Again I ask the question:
What gives the hoodlums in Washington DC the right to draw a line on a
map and control people's travel across that line?
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Jon Galt
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