[46549] in Cypherpunks
Re: Hammill 1987 speech
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jonathan Blake)
Fri Jan 5 07:29:17 1996
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 04:10:03 -0800 (PST)
From: Jonathan Blake <grafolog@netcom.com>
To: "Vladimir Z. Nuri" <vznuri@netcom.com>
Cc: jim bell <jimbell@pacifier.com>, cypherpunks@toad.com
In-Reply-To: <199601042043.MAA03161@netcom6.netcom.com>
Vladimir:
On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Vladimir Z. Nuri wrote:
> 1. governments ("they") do not allow it for "us".
Try the US Naval shelling of Atlantis circa 1967 for one
attempt.
Then there was the French attempt to take over the Libertarian
orientated "state" off the coast of England. << The UK
told France that if their vessels came any closer, that would
be considered an act of war against the UK, because they were
invading British Territorial Waters. >>
I don't remember places or years, but there have been five
or six other attempts since the second world war. In all
instances, other countries have actively sought to destroy
them, during the organizational setup, or whilst the country
in question was being settled, and setup.
> 2. there are a lot of people preventing it from being realized, and we
> have to *get*rid* of them first.
Find a place for them to go, so that they won't prevent
a libertarian orientated state from developing.
Unless you can explain another way to prevent such incidents
as the shelling of Atlantis, by the US Navy, this premise is
simply a statement of one of the biggest hinderences to the
formation of a libertarian orientated country.
> 3. the correct technology does not yet exist. once it is invented, however,
> all problems will be solved.
This is a premise developed from the other two points.
Not a provable one, but assumed to be provable.
xan
jonathon
grafolog@netcom.com
