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Re: Is there a lawyer in the house?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brian Davis)
Sun Dec 10 01:08:31 1995

Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 00:59:47 -0500 (EST)
From: Brian Davis <bdavis@thepoint.net>
To: cme@acm.org
Cc: unicorn@polaris.mindport.net, cypherpunks@toad.com
In-Reply-To: <9512072127.AA28756@tis.com>

On Thu, 7 Dec 1995 cme@acm.org wrote:

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> >Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 03:39:00 -0500 (EST)
> >From: Black Unicorn <unicorn@polaris.mindport.net>
> >Subject: Re: Netscape gives in to key escrow
> 
> >An individual has no legitimate expectation of privacy in the encryption 
> >numbers in his GAK browser, we reasoned, because he voluntarily conveyed 
> >those numbers to the government when he purchased the software.
> 
> It could be even worse.  I was on a panel last year with Scott Charney (sp?)
> (I believe from DoJ) during which he commented that if you give your secret
> key to anyone -- e.g., your own company -- then you have given up the
> presumption of privacy.  That leaves the police open to get that secret
> without a warrant.  This claim should be checked by a real lawyer.
>

I suspect that Charney was referring to the fact that the third party 
keyholder could be compelled to surrender your key under subpoena without 
having any right against self-incrimination invoked.  
And in that, of course, he was correct.  (But if you give it to your 
lawyer, for example, the communication is privileged ...).

EBD
 
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