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Re: Responding to Exon -- technology is not enough

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike Fletcher)
Thu Dec 7 09:54:08 1995

To: Bill.Humphries@msn.fullfeed.com (Bill Humphries)
Cc: cypherpunks@toad.com
From: Mike Fletcher <fletch@ain.bls.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 06 Dec 1995 16:46:27 CST."
             <v01530501acebcc1c5522@[199.184.183.25]> 
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 1995 09:47:49 -0500

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> Jason Burrell <jburrell@crl.com> writes:
> 
> >*Sigh*. Are we really ready to go back to UUCP? It looks like we'll have
> >to. That is, if someone doesn't set up a couple cryptographically enhanced
> >subnets first, or come up with some better idea. Interesting prospect,
> >actually.
> 
> Fine for the tiny subset of Net users who understand crypto enough to use
> it on a daily basis. I'm not one of people either. This crypto isn't user
> friendly stuff. Before you propose such as solution, better make sure
> people can use this stuff.

	Mr. Zimmerman has a fine book on PGP from MIT press (well,
it's the online docs in bound form, but it's still good) that explains
his program very well.  Or get one of the front ends: exmh or mailcrypt
for *nix platforms, Eudora hacks for Mac (and Winblowz?),  any one of
numerous Winblowz front ends.  Privacy is worth a little effort :).

> >Anyone wish to comment on the prospect of a double blind server, set
> >outside U.S. borders, that can act as an interface to the rest of the
> >world, perhaps encrypting or stego'ing the data transfered between it and
> >the user? Basically, an anonymous remailer that acts as a cross between
> >an NNTP, POP3, and SMTP servers.
> 
> How are you going to pitch this technology to all the people with AOL and
> Microsoft Network accounts who barely understand the net? These are the
> people who need exposure to all the uncensored expression they can get.

	A lot of the problem is that the AOL-ies and M$N people 
actually belive the marketing hype that they're on the net.

> Instead of figuring out how to build a new treehouse that excludes Exon and
> Hyde, how about fighting the damned bill in the courts?

	Why not, in the words of Deion Sanders, "Both"?  A new treehouse
might just hammer home to the clueless politicos that they can't regulate
technology like in the past.

	Maybe I'll get bored and actually play with a UDP Dining
Cryptographer's network.  Just to ship random numbers around, of course.

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