[118946] in Cypherpunks
..and Jim loved Big Brother
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Anonymous)
Mon Oct 11 05:06:25 1999
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:50:14 +0200 (CEST)
Message-Id: <199910110850.KAA30780@mail.replay.com>
From: Anonymous <nobody@replay.com>
To: cypherpunks@algebra.com
Reply-To: Anonymous <nobody@replay.com>
In sum, CALEA on everything. The Freeh conclusion
to a wired world.
>What the G8 panickers are aiming for is a method to lay
>claim to all the records and data of access points and ISPs
>around the globe which may have been used as links in the
>----- End of forwarded message from John Young -----
>So these governments are going to force every programmer on the planet to
>write code a certain way, or include a particular library at a certain
>point, etc.? How can that be? It violates the 1st.
Of course not. Authors never have deep pockets. You go
after Barnes and Noble, etc. The commercial deployers of
a tech. Businesses have locations, licenses, assets. Businesses are the
weak points in the meatspace link to implementation.
>The US government can't
>tell you to write a book.
All they can do is: seize your assets, toss your ass in jail. Hard to pay
civrights lawyers when some dumbass Tennessee DA has seized your bookstore,
slandered your name in public.
How do they propose to make operating systems like
>Linux compliant? Are they seriously proposing to outlaw Open Source
software?
Course not. You can write software just like you can write a book or a
song. You just can't distribute it publicly, or use it
commercially.
>And what about older non-compliant systems,
Like the bill of rights?
>And just exactly *who* is paying for all this upgrading and hardware
>replacement (I assume they'll want the routers doing it also)?
You, Jimmy boy, as long as you kiss ass enough so that
We continue to let you pay taxes. Telco stockholders didn't eat CALEA, We
paid for it, and the ISPs might get a little
dole from the Machine to implement their changes (if their
lobbyists suck enough congresscock, else they will have to
eat it.) In any case, the public eats it one way or another.
>I wonder how
>the British are going to feel with the French and Germans pawing around their
>networks by asking the Swiss, and visa versa?
These entities are fully-owned subsidiaries of NATO Enterprises,
a division of the Uncle Sam or Else Corp, Unltd.
TAZmonger
