[118934] in Cypherpunks
{LPMA general} Karl and Frederick would have been proud... (fwd)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jim Choate)
Sun Oct 10 18:46:46 1999
From: Jim Choate <ravage@einstein.ssz.com>
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Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 17:53:55 -0400
From: Robert Hettinga <rah@shipwright.com>
Subject: CDR: {LPMA general} Karl and Frederick would have been proud...
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[excerpt from the "Communist Manifesto" by Karl Marx and Frederick Engels]
1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to
public purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralization of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a
national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in he hands of
the state.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state;
the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the
soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies,
especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual
abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable
distribution of the populace over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of
children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with
industrial production, etc.
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1. Getting there.
2. It could be worse. As your own previous forward states, the current
regime is beginning to re-think income tax and how it's applied.
3. Not even close.
4. There is some limited confiscation and it in general does not apply to
emmigrants or rebels (was McVeigh required to give up title to any land
he held as a result of his conviction?, No.).
5. Certainly that is what they would want, though one can still live without
using a bank at all.
6. Not even hardly.
7. Not even close.
8. Not even close.
9. Not even close.
10. Not a sufficient distinction. Democracies required educated citizens to
operate, it follows that the state should provide education as a result.
The only other alternative is to requires a 'free state' to *only* allow
home schooling. While this should certainly be an option, requireing
(implying some form of coercion) all citizens to home school is itself
contrary to the precepts of individual freedom.
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