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"Women without veils"

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tim May)
Sun Sep 26 18:04:16 1999

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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 13:15:48 -0700
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From: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
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At 11:11 AM -0700 1999-09-26, Eric Cordian wrote:
>Jonathan wrote:
>
>> Few people would claim that hacking is worse, morally, socially, however,
>> than pedophilia.  In addition, reporting to EHAP likely requires a URL,
>> which the complaintant in question has failed to supply even after being
>> asked.
>
>Pedophilia is simply the condition, on the part of an adult, of finding
>prepubescent minors more sexually attractive than the aforementioned
>adult's do-gooder busybody neighbors find them.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in these United States cannot one be convicted
on a "pedophilia" charge for having sex with, or pictures of, or cartoons
about, a person who is under the legal age of consent? Usually 18, though
some states apparently set it at 16 or thereabout.

Puberty seems to be unrelated to the definitions of pedophilia and
statutory rape.

And having seem might hot, and obviously pubescent. 14-year old girls in my
9th grade classes.....

By the way, it's interesting that the porn boards are frequently obsessed
with the fact that some particular image represents "child porn." Lately,
the teen starlet/singer "Brittny Spears" has been the subject of many fakes
and postings of her own risque images. So the would-be censors scream
"pedophilia!!!" This despite the fact that Ms. Spears has had breast
implants, is clearly a woman, and herself plays on the sex kitten image.
One could say she is popular only _because_ of her sex kitten image.

Oh, and what if the fakes are generated or posted from Denmark or France,
where the age of consent is quite a bit lower than in the U.S.? Is not the
Usenet a global forum, uncentered in any particular country?

In recent weeks I saw a very clever example posted here. "Women without
veils." It makes the obvious point, with a nice twist, that what is legal
in America may well be illegal in Islamic countries. Not a new point, but a
well-made one.

So it is with "pedophilia."


--Tim May

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