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Re: anglefire

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric Cordian)
Sun Sep 26 17:31:10 1999

From: Eric Cordian <emc@chao.insync.net>
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To: jestaff2@unity.ncsu.edu (Jonathan Stafford)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 11:49:27 -0700 (PDT)
Cc: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.4.05.9909261425140.6338-100000@eos00du.eos.ncsu.edu> from "Jonathan Stafford" at Sep 26, 1999 02:29:35 PM
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Jonathan writes:

> Are you saying "pedophiles who don't follow through (thus violating social
> norms) on there feelings aren't victimizers" ?

Most people conform their sexual behavior to the requirements of the law.  
Bosses don't bend their secretaries over the desk every time they feel the
urge.  People don't attempt to screw every adolescent they see sprouting
breasts or big muscles.  Members of the executive branch don't drag
young female interns into the private study everytime they want their
cocks sucked.  

Oh wait!  Forget that last one. :)

In any case, language like "pedophiles who don't follow through" is
biased, and an attempt to suggest that individuals attracted to minors
somehow are less able to behave themselves sexually than other members of
society, and will inevitably offend. 

It's like calling non-rapists "heterosexuals who don't follow through."

> I agree that thought crimes are bad.  Sorry about interchanging
> terminology.  What is the correct term for my meaning of pedophiles
> (people who like children and engage them sexually)?

The correct term is "child sexual predator."  A class of people which
includes both pedophiles, and non-pedophiles, since most sex crimes
against children are opportunistic ones, based on the fact that children
make easy victims, and do not involve a heightened sexual attraction by
the perpetrator for the victim. 

> Please explain what you mean by racism is worse in prison.
> Are you saying that in a penal environment people tend to distrust people
> unlike them moreso than in the general public, or that those in prison are
> more likely to be racist?

Those in prison are less likely to be skilled critical thinkers, and more
likely to embrace popular stereotypes and scapegoat others as an
explanation for their misfortune.  They are also less likely to be
literate, bathe regularly, and pursue non-violent solutions to conflicts.

They are also much more likely to have tattoos.

--
Eric Michael Cordian 0+
O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division
"Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"


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