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Re: Is There a Visor Security Model?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bill Frantz)
Wed Sep 22 17:36:36 1999

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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:23:45 -0700
To: Dan Geer <geer@world.std.com>, Robert Hettinga <rah@shipwright.com>
From: Bill Frantz <frantz@netcom.com>
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Reply-To: Bill Frantz <frantz@netcom.com>

At 8:23 PM -0700 9/21/99, Dan Geer wrote:
>    The Palm's security model is, by most accounts I've seen, non-existant.
>
>The issue is the lack of memory protection, i.e., that there is no
>protected space for keying material.  Visor is said to use the PalmOS
>as is, so that is not a magic wand.  Of course, if your OS has no memory
>protection, you can always rely on yet another external hardware
>device, as has already been mentioned.

The other solution is to run you Palm in "system high" mode, where all
applications are trusted.  (Since the only application I have added to my
Palm is "Life", I could easily run it that way.  Now all I have to do is
gain trust in the built in applications.)


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