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Re: spam on the cypherpunks list (fwd)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jim Choate)
Wed Sep 22 08:58:31 1999

From: Jim Choate <ravage@einstein.ssz.com>
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 07:40:54 -0500 (CDT)
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----- Forwarded message from Bill Stewart -----

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 01:37:11 -0700
From: Bill Stewart <bill.stewart@pobox.com>
Subject: CDR: Re: spam on the cypherpunks list

Some people read the filtered cypherpunks lists that have existed from
time to time (I don't think any are active now, but there were a couple
best-5-10%-of-cypherpunks lists.)

Jim Choate's comments on the independence of the list servers are good.
On the other hand, he suggests that you can build a database of subscribers
by getting the lists from the other list servers.  This doesn't work,
because some of them block access to those lists, either for privacy
or spam prevention or just-too-long-ness.

----- End of forwarded message from Bill Stewart -----

What happened to sunder@sunder.net? When did they go down?

As to the comment about valid subscribers and blocking, While the point is
valid as far as it goes there is a solution even to this one. Since lurkers
don't post but only get traffic passively knowing they're subscribed is
pretty pointless. What you're after is passing only those subscribers who
actively post to the various list. So a program that catalogs posters and
then asks the operator of the filter to pass/fail new posters on their first
submission should work just fine. When coupled with the "To: cypherpunks" 
filter it should block about 99.99% of the spam or other traffic you don't 
want. An intelligent killfile, who would'a thunk it...


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