[118204] in Cypherpunks
Re: Java & Mickey pushed by pedophile
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric Cordian)
Tue Sep 21 21:20:45 1999
From: Eric Cordian <emc@chao.insync.net>
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To: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 17:58:37 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <199909212249.AAA03116@mail.replay.com> from "Anonymous" at Sep 22, 1999 12:49:35 AM
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Anonymous wrote:
> Finally, some insight into Java's background. As we feared, it does
> take a special personality to support Java.
> Infoseek executive arrested on solicitation charges
> By Bloomberg News
> Special to CNET News.com
> September 19, 1999, 11:15 p.m. PT
So Naughton faces 15 years in prison for not having sex with someone who
was neither female nor 13 years old.
How much did it cost taxpayers for FBI Special Agent Bruce Applin to troll
this guy on IRC for 8 months?
After reading the FBI's accounts of the activities of Jim Bell and Carl
Johnson, such accounts bearing little relationship to the truth as most of
us know it, why should we believe Little Girl Impersonator Bruce Applin's
account of Patrick Naughton's Internet activities either?
Most cases of entrapment I am familiar with are hallmarked by the fact
that what the police allege generally bears no relationship to reality.
Someone who knows someone they believe to be a minor on the Net for a
number of years happens to be visiting the area where said minor lives,
and at the minor's insistance, acquieses to meeting the minor in a public
place during their trip, for reasons unrelated to sex.
Or someone claiming to be a tormented gay teen on the verge of suicide
needs someone to talk to, and asks someone on the Net to meet them in a
public place and help them.
And lo and behold, after some unsuspecting adult patsy has been lured in
such a fashion, often after years of teasing by expert FBI Child
Impersonators like Agent Applin here, out pops an FBI task force, press
releases in hand, with TV cameras and crap about crossing state lines to
commit "deviate sexual intercourse with a minor."
So what's the effect of such antics by Agent Bruce Applin and his Woodie?
Well, 13 year old girls who hang out on IRC hoping to lure strange adult
men into visiting them and having sex with them, a population I imagine to
be pretty near zero to begin with, are "protected" from the consequences
of their actions.
Is the chance of harm here times the amount of harm equal to anything near
the money spent, in comparison to other ways of spending money to better
the lives of children? I think not.
The other consequence is that no adult will meet any kid they know from
the Net in real life, no matter what the kid's situation, because they
have to worry that the more the kid seems to need help, the more likely it
is that they have been wasting their time providing jackoff fantasies for
"child savers" like FBI Special Agent Bruce Applin here.
I don't think this necessarily betters the lives of kids either.
Just my opinion, of course.
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Eric Michael Cordian 0+
O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division
"Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"
