[118134] in Cypherpunks
Re: IP: THEY THINK WE'RE THE ENEMY
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Declan McCullagh)
Mon Sep 20 16:12:33 1999
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:45:41 -0400
To: Robert Hettinga <rah@shipwright.com>, cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
From: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>
Cc: fiedor19@eos.net, ignition-point@precision-d.com
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In Doug Fiedor's recent column on police militarization, he quotes from a
purported "US Army urban warfare manual" and gives a link to it. Fair
enough. Well, I took a look at it and here's what I found in chapter two:
http://earthops.org/sovereign/urban_warfare/90-10.2.html
>All fighting men are told that no one has the right to leave the defended
location without a specific order to do so. Party members are distributed
throughout the fighting units. There must be an "active member" in every
separate group of fighting men. He conducts party-political indoctrination
and provides the example in combat. Based on the commander's iuidance and
decision, the Deputy Commander for Political Affairs plans the
party-political support for the combat missions.
I don't know about you, but this seems to me to be a spoof of some Soviet
literature, not something that has anything to do with the FBI or Waco. Or
maybe it's something that a bored high school JROTC kid wrote in his spare
time. Whatever.
Moral: Just because something's on the Internet, don't believe it's real.
-Declan
>Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 17:22:09 -0600
>To: Ignition-Point < >
>From: Doug Fiedor <fiedor19@eos.net>
>Subject: IP: THEY THINK WE'RE THE ENEMY
>Sender: owner-ignition-point@precision-d.com
>Reply-To: Doug Fiedor <fiedor19@eos.net>
>
[...]
> Oh, and they also have use of a Special
>Operations classified Army aviation unit used almost
>exclusively for covert missions; which is conveniently
>based next to the Quantico FBI Academy. And that area just
>happens to be, also coincidentally, where the military
>trains certain types of covert special operations people.
> So, we went looking for training manuals. One
>reasonably adequate one is at:
>http://earthops.org/sovereign/urban_warfare This is
>FM 90-10, titled "Military Operations on Urbanized Terrain
>(MOUT)." In Army-speak, it is about "those military actions
>planned and conducted on a terrain complex where manmade
>construction impacts on the tactical options available to
>commanders."
> We found Appendix G: "How To Attack And Clear
>Buildings," quite interesting because it seems to describe
>the actions of those many military practice attacks carried
>out on urban areas around the country over the past couple
>years. Interestingly enough, it also diagrams the methods
>the BATF tried to use at Waco.
