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Re: A-M$: The Microsoft NSA Back Door

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Wagner)
Fri Sep 3 23:00:50 1999

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From: daw@cs.berkeley.edu (David Wagner)
Date: 3 Sep 1999 19:24:03 -0700
Message-ID: <7qpvs3$o6m$1@blowfish.isaac.cs.berkeley.edu>
Reply-To: daw@cs.berkeley.edu (David Wagner)

In article <19990904005021.18454.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com>,
Arizona  <katmai733@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Three points here:
> 1) The *worst* case is that this is a backdoor for NSA
>  administrative use?  I would consider the worst case
> to be that the agency may have managed to give
> themselves potential access to every Windows machine
> on the planet.  Maybe that's just me...

A backdoor that would let the NSA "spy on every Windoze box in the world"
would be an even worse case, I agree, but all the evidence suggests that
that's not what's going on here.  That part is all hype.

I'll repeat myself:
   "This does NOT appear to be a case of the NSA installing
   a backdoor that lets them spy on Windows machines around
   the world."
At worst, it is something much less sinister (I believe); at best, it is
relatively harmless, and maybe even a net benefit (since it makes it easier
to bypass export controls).

> 2) Does it bother you that the NSA would have enough
> influence inside MS to get their own private changes
> made to the OS?

Let me re-quote some text I wrote on the subject which you deleted:
   "This is, IMHO, a lesser sin (albeit still an abuse of
   export controls, if true)."
Does that answer your question?  Sure, it would bother me, but it is not
the same as a backdoor that lets the NSA "spy on the world".

> It doesn't seem to me that you
> thought through what you were writing before you
> pressed "send."

Uh-huh...


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