[117187] in Cypherpunks
Re: Project: Hardening Crypto Against Big Brother's
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Sean Roach)
Fri Aug 27 23:53:53 1999
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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 22:37:45 -0500
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From: Sean Roach <roach_s@mail.intplsrv.net>
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At 04:52 PM 8/26/99 -0700, Petro wrote:
>
> Anyone know off the top of their head (or happen to have a
>bunch of thermite laying around) if the electric igniters for model
>rockets get hot enough to do the job? How about a lightbulb with the
>glass removed, and the filament buried in the thermite?
I don't know, but I doubt it. Model rocket ignitors that I have seen came
in two flavors. Solar, like Estes, is essentially high resistance wire. I
don't remember what. The other was just a strip of copper which was given
a direct line to a car battery. Lightbulb filiments are tungsten. Maybe
something like pitch might be able to be used as an intermediary.
>>And what company to throw plastic (no Jeff, I didn't spell it plastique you
>>scumball) plans to and have them make you a case? :)
>>
>>And how much RF densely packed thermite blocks? If this is an issue you
could
>>buy that flectron cloth stuff and use it as part of the case, or thick
copper
>>foil, etc... Make it a real work of art. Heh... :)
>>
>>IMHO, this can be used to take an off the shelf notebook and build it
inside a
>>new case with these "extra" features...
>
> Use a magnesium case, and just light that up.
Thermite, if packed, will probably be hard enough to ignite. We actually
use magnesium in some things. Honestly, though, if magnesium won't work,
thermite probably won't either. I seem to remember my science teacher
using a thermite ribbon, freshly polished, to ignite the thermite mixture.
>>
>>Am I gonna build such a thing? Fuck no. But someone else will. Ha!
But if
>>I do, I'd bet your spook buddies would snap'em up in a heartbeat, and make
>>that cypherpunk a millionaire. Yup. Wouldn't surprise me if they're
already
>>using the same kind of shit we're thinking up here.
>
> We're operating at a very gross, almost "garage" level.
>
> If you have "bucks" to spend. instead of using thermite, you
>could simply build your drive cases out of magnesium, and build in
>some sort of igniter. Poofta that drive ain't readable any more.
>
> The overall idea is to embarass them. Not that that is hard,
>they tend to do it to themselves.
Better yet. If you can do it, make the drive PLATTERS out of thin
magnesium and ignore the case. Or seal the case and charge it with
something extremely volatile, like, possibly, acetyline.
Sean
