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Petro, please put me in your kill file...

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jean-Francois Avon)
Fri Aug 27 00:29:33 1999

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From: "Jean-Francois Avon" <jf_avon@citenet.net>
To: "Cypherpunks" <cypherpunks@toad.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 00:07:56 -0400
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On Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:23:25 -0700, Petro wrote:

>	Ride a bicycle--at 1.71 dollars a gallon, you are only paying 

>1/2 of what that gas costs when you figure in accident clean up, road 
>building and maintainence, and the overall cost of cleaning up the 
>grime and nastiness caused by burning fossil fuels.
>
>	I'm paying 1.67 a gallon here in the peoples Republic of 
>Califonia, but I don't really care--then again my motor cycle gets 
>about 40 miles to the gallon, and my wifes car gets a little better 
>than 30--and it only gets driven about 60 miles a week, with maybe a 
>little extra on the week ends.

Dear Petro...

How about having to commute with a bike to a job that is located at the other 
end of the city (50 miles) in the winter, by -25 F, on narrow street, among 
18" chunks of ice littering the side of every street and snowbanks four feet 
high over the sidewalks?  If we really want to use bikes here 12 months a 
year, we'll have to burn quite a bit more than the regular quantity of fossil 
fuels the world currently does!  See, I drive my gaz-guzzler to make sure I 
could use a more eco-friendly way of travel in the future.  All altruistic, my 
dear friend!

And while a student at U of Montreal, I did just this for one whole winter.  I 
had to travel around 10 miles then.  Almost got killed ten times as often as 
during the whole rest of my life.  Then, I had enough.

Of course, a the largest part of the gaz price is taxes, so that the green and 
collectivistic do-gooders can get paid while they harass us...

I invite you to have as much regard as I now have for you, and thus 
reciprocate my actions: put me in your kill file.

Antually, guys, is this Petro some ViZioNury or what? :-)  And plonk he goes 
with the VZNers...

Ciao

jfa


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