[117111] in Cypherpunks
Re: A race...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Sean Roach)
Thu Aug 26 16:35:28 1999
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:11:26 -0500
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From: Sean Roach <roach_s@mail.intplsrv.net>
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At 12:05 PM 8/26/99 -0400, Jean-Francois Avon wrote: ">"
>
>On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 23:03:15 -0500, I wrote: ">>"
>
>>Personally, I'm suprised that Canada went to gun restrictions before the
>>U.S. Canada has much sparser population then the U.S. and the way I see
>>it, the impulse to control ones neighbors is directly proportional to the
>>proximity of ones neighbors.
>
>Our Komradship of Kanada is the testing ground for the United States.
Yeah, it bothers me a bit when my president is in other countries
encouraging them to enact the policies that cause so much arguement at
home, (guns and crypto being the best examples at hand).
>[note here, NOT the "Unites States of America" which is the association of
>sovereign states but the "United States", i.e. the PRIVATE corporation
that is
>the govt of the U.S. that claimed and usurped the right to coerce certain
>policies over the citizens of the United States of America.]
>
>Beside, you have a second amendment that we don't even have. Let's not
>nitpick on the fact that neither the US constitution nor the kanadian
>constitutions are *lawfull* documents here... You also have property
rights,
>which we don't have. As for the motivation for gun control, you
>understandably missed it for it is not evident.
>
>If the Ruling Class is to remain in it's ruling position, it HAS to disarm
the
>peasanry, i.e. you and me. This was realized in the seventies and has been
>steadily going forward since, irrelevant of any elected flavour of govt.
I had forgotten, rather than not known. My assumption was based on the
simple observation that the most restrictive states seem to also be the
most populous ones. But you do have a point. I wouldn't exactly call
Australia a high density nation either. But as to why a visible portion of
the citizenry is calling for it, and other restrictions on way of life,
still seems to fit. Except, of course, that the elite control the media,
at least the mass media, and have been telling us that we don't like guns,
(like they've been telling us that we like our president.)
With
>the advent of the net and cryptography, the peasantry is getting more and
more
>power for it can circumvent the natural and imposed limitations on the
flow of
>political and economical information. Thus, it becomes a race for the
Elites:
>disarm the peasantry before it gets sufficently informed an pissed-off
that it
>takes action.
>
>As for Komradship of Kanada not being a test ground for other things such as
>Anti-Drug enforcment, it is because the testing was never a necessary
step, it
>could simply be implemented within the US of A without major tests abroad
>because the Rulers knew it would never raise any major opposition. The spin-
>doctoring about the "evilness" of drugs was rather easy to make the
peasantry
>swallow.
It was probably so easy because of the religous intolerance for so much as
alcohol by our forefathers.
Sean Roach
