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Re: Black Bag Jobs VS Shopping Bag Jobs

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Zombie Cow)
Tue Aug 24 18:49:42 1999

Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 01:31:28 +0300 (EEST)
From: Zombie Cow <waste@zor.hut.fi>
To: Jean-Francois Avon <jf_avon@citenet.net>
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Can anyone guarantee that there is no Echelon-type keyword-search
in McAfee or other anti-virus or filtering software that the US
government sponsors?

All I can say is that similar trojaning has happened before.

http://caq.com/cryptogate
http://www.iptvreports.mcmail.com/ic2kreport.htm
http://jya.com/crypto.htm

And it is happening right now. With ~$60 billion spy-budget you 
can do alot.

Why do you think the US industry is so hot? Because Americans can
innovate? No, because they steal when they can. (This has been shown
in a psychological study to be a national trait.)

On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Jean-Francois Avon wrote:

> 
> On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 02:48:42 -0700, Gary Jeffers wrote:
> 
>              Black Bag Jobs VS Shopping Bag Jobs
>    Does anybody know of anybody who can guarantee us that the mountain of binary 
> code in Windows 98 does not contain a backdoor. If U.S. pushed Bill Gates hard, 
> then I would think that there is a backdoor. For U.S. ghouls, this would be a 
> wonderful idea.    
> 
> Bill Gate$ is part of some "elite", via his parent's.  He's Elite "family".
> He was also a distinguished participant at the Bilderberg's meeting (Tri-lateral 
> commission?).
> 
> Ciao
> 
> jfa


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