[116971] in Cypherpunks
Re: Project: Hardening Crypto Against Big Brother's
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Haggerty)
Tue Aug 24 16:23:54 1999
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:44:57 -0700
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From: "John Haggerty" <jhaggert@streetforce.com>
To: sbryan@vendorsystems.com
Cc: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
Reply-To: "John Haggerty" <jhaggert@streetforce.com>
Hmm.. What would happen if you just planted couple hundred pounds of dynamite
and had it triggered when anyone entered the home except you via some remote
signaling device, then when they try to go into your house the whole thing is
blown to bits investigators, evidence, and all.
>Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:56:57 -0500
>To: Petro <petro@suba.com>
>From: steve bryan <sbryan@vendorsystems.com>
>Cc: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
>
>>>There are some definite unacceptable aspects to the proposal...
>...
>> They want PERMISSION to break into your house when you aren't
>>home to plant evid^h^h^h^h information gathering devices.
>>
>> This doesn't bother you?
>
>Yes, it does bother me which is why I stated my position the way I
>did. If they are demanding the routine privilege of employing this as
>an investigative technique, I'd tell them to go to hell. However, if
>they have enough other persuasive evidence to convince a judge that
>they need this procedure to gather evidence needed for a conviction I
>wouldn't rule it out. Of course if an investigator makes such
>requests and no further evidence is found then he will lose
>credibility and he may get his toys taken away.
>
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