[9965] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet
Re: NSF AUP restrictions
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Sean Doran)
Mon Jan 31 12:39:18 1994
To: com-priv@psi.com
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 28 Jan 1994 12:11:26 PST."
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 09:37:58 -0800
From: Sean Doran <smd@cesium.clock.org>
In msg <9401282011.AA20139@eskimo.CPH.CMC.COM> Lars Poulson wrote:
| Unless this comes with a connection to THE CIX it will not necessarily
| solve anything.
This is quite true; however, not too long ago Tom Glinos <tg@uunet.ca>
was mumbling something about dropping a wire in to MAE East, and
peering with various commercial providers there.
The stated theory is that it would go a long way towards making a
simple Canadian DMZ which keeps Canadian traffic in Canada something
more like a CIX-East, assuming routing is done somewhat sensibly, and
the U.S. providers at MAE East really care to adapt to the model.
| For all I know, the Canadian backbone network may already
| be policy free. I still can't get to it without going through NSF
| territory.
CA*Net is ostensibly policy free for traffic between any two CA*Net
members. Various members have weird policies, though, and CA*Net
itself is bound by an agreement between NSF and the Canadian National
Research Council regarding use of the NSFNet backbone, and the fact
that its only external connectivity is via NSFNet.
The agreement is interpreted rather liberally, though.
| By the way, BUNYIP.COM is another Canadian site which appears to be
| reachable only across NSF / ANS links.
There are plenty of Canadian sites which are customers of Hookup
(info@hookup.net), which is a SprintLink reseller, and UUNET Canada
(info@uunet.ca) which are reachable via the CIX. fONOROLA, an ANS
CO+RE gateway customer, and its reseller UUNORTH (tonym@fonorola.net,
something@uunorth.north.net) are not presently CIX members, and are
reachable generally only by CO+RE customers and people who are NSFNet
routed. They, however, have a few customers also.
I believe that PSI has a customer or two in Canada, as has Netcom, and
it wouldn't surprise me to learn that SprintLink has more than just
Hookup in the works. Finally, DRENet (run by the Canadian Department
of National Defence) is a fair-sized network, connected via DSI.
Sean.
